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 Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:03 am Using 'the 39s' instead of 'the 39's size trousers' |
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Hi Tamara
Your questions are always interesting and you're very observant!
| Quote: | 1. Why they feel / it feels , just a tradition? Feeling is entirely customer’s ability and 'I feel (them / it) …' would be more logical...
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"Feel" is used in the sense of "Do the size 38 trousers feel comfortable to you?". In other words, if the trousers are too tight or too loose anywhere, that will cause an uncomfortable sensation or feeling for the person wearing them.
| Quote: | 2. As I see (hear), informally the 38 is used instead of the 38’s size trousers, the trousers [of? in?] 38 size.
But in the second case it’s plural - the 39s Shocked !
Is there a typo error? Should be 39's? Both are OK? What is an (informal?) rule for that? |
Here it is probably simply a question of what the speaker is thinking. "The 38" simply means "the size 38". (The speaker is focused on only the size.)
When the speaker says "the 39s", the focus has changed to trousers => "the size 39 trousers"
And, as with trousers, if the speaker says "the 39s", the verb will also be plural. 
I myself would probably say "the 39s" much more often than "the 39". 
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| Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:04 am Using 'the 39s' instead of 'the 39's size trousers' |
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| Tamara wrote: | So… the trousers make me feeling [un]comfortable. OK.
But what could be an acceptable phrase with 'I feel' – directly?
I feel they are slightly tight for me? |
"The trousers are uncomfortable" has basically exactly the same meaning as "The trousers feel uncomfortable."
If you say "I feel the trousers are too tight for me", then you are voicing an opinion ("I think") rather than saying saying what the physical sensation is. It's possible that you think the trousers are too tight only because the current fashion is to wear very baggy trousers. It would be like saying "I feel that book is too easy for her." (My opinion is that the book is to easy for her. In my opinion she should read something more difficult.)
If a sales person asks
"How do the trousers feel?"
a typical answer would be
"They are too tight."
But you could also say something like
"They feel a little tight around my waist."
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"They feel just right."
Hope that helps.
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| Sat Jul 01, 2006 13:12 pm Using 'the 39s' instead of 'the 39's size trousers' |
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| Quote: | | If you say "I feel the trousers are too tight for me", then you are voicing an opinion ("I think") rather than saying what the physical sensation is. |
Now I’ve got it!
I mean: 'I feel = I think' in the context and 'they are tight = physically uncomfortable for me'.
And, as I understood, the question 'How do they feel?' is generally concerned to both - the opinion (on how they look) and the sensation (how comfortable you feel being in them). But more likely - to the latter.
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