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Hi Tamara,
I think I should mention that a mistake can be corrected in many different ways. One way is to point it out directly, which is appropriate sometimes (most especially if a student asks for corrections). However, I sometimes choose to repeat students' sentences in my own writing (correctly written); this way a student is likely to realise that there was something wrong in their text. This way is more diplomatic than directly quoting and modifying a sentence accomplished by a student, something that can be quite ego-cracking. |
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| #18 (permalink) Tue Jul 11, 2006 18:04 pm Gendered speech |
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| Tamara wrote: |
| ‘Jamie’ for me, with my background, sounds rather as a female name, by default. (I think, mainly because of French ‘Jaimie’ which I know as a female name.) |
'Jaimie' isn't a French name, Tamara. You must confuse it with another one (Aim?e or Jeanne?) or with the phrase "j'aime" (I like/love) perhaps :) ?
Now, you'll find that American names may cause confusion, since our friends over the pond often use surnames for first names (and the other way round). Girls may also be given state names. Another American feature is that some names can be used both for boys and for girls, like 'Jamie'. |
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| #19 (permalink) Tue Jul 11, 2006 21:02 pm Correcting mistakes |
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| Englishuser wrote: |
Hi Tamara,
I think I should mention that a mistake can be corrected in many different ways. One way is to point it out directly, which is appropriate sometimes (most especially if a student asks for corrections). However, I sometimes choose to repeat students' sentences in my own writing (correctly written); this way a student is likely to realise that there was something wrong in their text. This way is more diplomatic than directly quoting and modifying a sentence accomplished by a student, something that can be quite ego-cracking. |
Hi Englishuser
To be honest,
1. What you 'think you should mention' is just re-telling of what Alan and other moderators wrote recently in the correspondent topic.
2. If we took as a (conditional :)) example you and me, I would suggest that risk of cracking my ego (as your student’ :) ) is very small and can be considered as insignificant :)
I just would be grateful you for your help.
3. ‘Ego-cracking’ topic seems to be one of the most interesting for you, as you mention it quote often.
But, as I think, demonstrating a care about learner’s ego, you actually reveal just classic projection (I use it here as a physiological term).
Because your own ego (as you show it here) is very-very rigid & you seem to be unable to admit the fact, you are forced to defend it from cracking, doing your utmost.
This (such kind of projection) occurs quite often.
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| #20 (permalink) Tue Jul 11, 2006 21:04 pm Gendered speech |
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Hi Conchita
Yes, Jamie's got one of those names that goes both ways. I don't know why, but I assumed from Day One that "our" Jamie was a lad. 8)
I found a French website that backs up your "Jaimie" information. Although the name exists in France, it is extremely rare (described on the website as: "tr?s rare" :lol:).
http://www.bebe-prenoms.com/pages/prenom-jaimie-8735.html
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| Girls may also be given state names. |
I'm eternally grateful to my parents that they saw fit to avoid doing that in our family. Seriously, though, although I agree that probably happens, I think it must be pretty rare if you exclude "Georgia". On the other hand, my sister is named Nancy. Does that mean she's named after a French city? :lol:
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| #21 (permalink) Tue Jul 11, 2006 21:06 pm Jaimie |
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Hi Conchita :)
Thank you, now I’ve learnt about American ‘Jamie’.
By the way, in Russian we also have names that can be given both boys and girls, but in full form they differ by ending.
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| 'Jaimie' isn't a French name, Tamara. You must confuse it with another one (Aim?e or Jeanne?) or with the phrase "j'aime" (I like/love) perhaps :) |
I can’t insist because I heard it only from one quite good guy when he told about his French girlfriend. Of course, if "j'aime" means ‘I love’, it quite possible that I had mistaken :) and very likely :)
But I did the Google-search and found this:
http://babynamenetwork.com/baby_names/alphabetical/j.cfm?gender=female
(but, frankly, I don’t know whether it can be considered as an argument.)
See you :)
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| #22 (permalink) Tue Jul 11, 2006 21:49 pm Gendered speech |
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| Yankee wrote: |
| I don't know why, but I assumed from Day One that "our" Jamie was a lad. 8) |
The word 'lad' has a nice sound to it. Funnily enough, though, I never use it. The possessive 'our' with a name also sounds nice (and very Irish!) to my ears.
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| I found a French website that backs up your "Jaimie" information. Although the name exists in France, it is extremely rare (described on the website as: "tr?s rare" :lol:). |
The name might exist in France, as do many other foreign names. Still, it isn't a French name.
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I can’t insist because I heard it only from one quite good guy when he told about his French girlfriend. Of course, if "j'aime" means ‘I love’, it quite possible that I had mistaken and very likely
But I did the Google-search and found this:
http://babynamenetwork.com/baby_names/alphabetical/j.cfm?gender=female
(but, frankly, I don’t know whether it can be considered as an argument.) |
I'm afraid not, Tamara. 'Jaimie' might look and sound a bit like 'j'aime', but it definitely isn't French. |
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