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I found it
envisage verb [T] (US ALSO envision) SLIGHTLY FORMAL
Please answer the below question, too. Thanks.
Is the expression I used before totally wrong?
I remember to have paid the telephone bill |
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Hi Attila
| Quote: | Is the expression I used before totally wrong?
I remember to have paid the telephone bill |
Yes, that sentence would always be incorrect.
But, as Alan mentioned, using "having paid" or "paying" would be OK in the sentence.
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 18:24 pm "forget to do" versus "forget doing" |
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Dear Mister Micawber
It is an interesting point. 
You know every night I lie down to sleep I ask myself if I closed/ locked the door...and almost always I fail to remember;I go back and double check. Such a bad memory! SO really I forget locking the door.
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 19:11 pm Forget |
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Hi Tom,
I'm afraid in your sentence your use of doesn't really work.
You wrote:
| Quote: | | You know every night I lie down to sleep I ask myself if I closed/ locked the door...and almost always I fail to remember;I go back and double check. Such a bad memory! SO really I forget locking the door. |
For the use to make sense you would have to write:
Such a bad memory! So really I forget whether I've locked the door.
I would say a possible use of forget + ing would be as follows:
I shall never forget flying for the first time. (often used in negative sentences)
or perhaps with the imperative:
Forget slimming - forget losing weight and just enjoy your food. That gives the idea of forget about in the sense of not worry about.
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 22:12 pm "forget to do" versus "forget doing" |
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| attila wrote: | You wrote this, too
Does it help you envision the difference clearly?
It's the word "envision". I searched for this in two dictionaries without success and what's more I can't find it in the Cambridge Online dictionary. |
You can find it in that dictionary under the word 'envisage'. The term 'envision' tends to be used in American English (maybe because 'envisage' is a bit formal ?). As Pamela explained, it means 'to foresee, to plan something which may take place': I envisage a further increase in the cost of living; no changes are envisaged for the next twelve months. |
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 23:10 pm "forget to do" versus "forget doing" |
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Hi Conchita
Don't forget that Pamela also came up with "imagine".
Envision works in your sentences, too. Companies like that word a lot. Especially American ones. 
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 0:43 am "forget to do" versus "forget doing" |
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| Yankee wrote: | Hi Conchita
Don't forget that Pamela also came up with "imagine".
Envision works in your sentences, too. Companies like that word a lot. Especially American ones.
Amy |
Here's yet another clear and pathetic example of my absent-mindedness: I had missed the whole second page of the thread! As a result, my previous post is rather incongruous, of course (to say the least).
I blame it all on the heat these days, but deep down (and not so deep down) I know there's more to it than that! |
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:53 am "forget to do" versus "forget doing" |
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Hi Conchita
That's happened to me, too. I've clicked on a topic, thinking I would end up on the latest page, but end up on the first. That doesn't happen all the time, only sometimes. And I have no idea why. It's strange.
It's hot here, too, but I assume not nearly as hot as in Spain. And the humidity is also a little higher than usual. Compared to where I grew up, though, the current "heatwave" is pretty tame. Thank goodness! How hot is it in your neck of the woods at the moment?
I was really surprised that Attila couldn't find envision in dictionaries. That word is quite commonly used in American English. I wasn't aware that it isn't common in the UK. Now I'm wondering whether the Aussies use it at all....
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:56 am "forget to do" versus "forget doing" |
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Hi,
Don't forget to close the door.
The door was already open.so we use this verb close.
Don't forget to closing the door.
The second one is Unusal. |
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:58 am Back to the drawing board... |
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| swami wrote: | Don't forget to closing the door.
The second one is Unusal. |
Hi swami
"Dont forget to closing the door" is not unusual, it's wrong. 
"Don't forget closing the door" was the unusual one.
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