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What is the place of Grammar in language teaching?



 
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What is the place of Grammar in language teaching? #1 (permalink) Wed Jul 19, 2006 16:10 pm   What is the place of Grammar in language teaching?
 

Hi guys,
All this fuss about grammar Confused , i was wondering. .

What's the place of grammar in language teaching?

How necessary is it for a me (a non native speaker myself) as an aspiring teacher of English as a Foreign Language to have knowledge of English Grammar?

How necessary is it for a teacher to have knowledge of the grammar of the students’ language or languages?

Thanks in advance!
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What is the place of Grammar in language teaching? #2 (permalink) Wed Jul 19, 2006 21:39 pm   What is the place of Grammar in language teaching?
 

As an aspiring teacher of EFL, it's extremely necessary for you to know the grammatical structure of English, not only from the point of view of traditional grammar, but also from the modern linguistic approach that goes deeper and explains a lot of things that are not explicitly taught.

Some pundits will claim that teaching grammar is not necessary, claiming that the students don't show improved grammar "at the end of the study", but frequently these studies don't last long enough for the grammar to soak into the subconscious and form part of the student's interlanguage.

Students need some explicit grammar training, partly because it gives them a target to shoot for, partly because if trains their "monitor" and allows them to correct themselves, and partly because it makes them aware of structures in the language that they may not otherwise have detected. If they know about these structures, they will notice them in their environments, and they will acquire them sooner.

One example of the latter situation is how most of my ESL students never detect the past perfect tense, because in speech the auxiliary verbs are contracted and hard to hear. Someone needs to point out to them that the tense exists. Likewise, they don't hear the contracted auxiliaries in the future with going to. They think that native speakers are saying, "I going to do that," "He going to be here," etc. If they aren't taught the auxiliaries are there, they might not acquire them.

One reason the teacher needs to know the grammar of English is that it assures that she won't give stupid answers like, "That's just the way we say it!"

Of course, it's not absolutely necessary to know the grammar of the students' native language. (In my classes, only a genius with a lot of spare time would be able to learn all those languages.) However, knowing the grammar of the student's language helps you detect problems early and see why students are miscomprehending English grammar.

But since we can't learn all the grammar of all those languages, a really good EFL instructor should learn phonetics, phonology, syntax and other aspects of language to a high level, along with acquiring a functional command of at least two foreign languages.
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What is the place of Grammar in language teaching? #3 (permalink) Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:06 am   What is the place of Grammar in language teaching?
 

I am new to this site. I saw the posting done by Honeybee and I realised that I am in the same shoes. Can anyone assist me?

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What is the place of Grammar in language teaching? #4 (permalink) Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:23 am   What is the place of Grammar in language teaching?
 

It has the major bite, which is odd to say the least.
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What is the place of Grammar in language teaching? #5 (permalink) Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:24 am   What is the place of Grammar in language teaching?
 

I think it's much more important to teach your students how to learn English than trying to teach them grammar.
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What is the place of Grammar in language teaching? #6 (permalink) Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:27 am   What is the place of Grammar in language teaching?
 

Torsten wrote:
I think it's much more important to teach your students how to learn English than trying to teach them grammar.


What do you mean by "how to learn English", Torsten?
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