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Hi all,
I think that people shouldn't discriminate between men and women. All people are created equal and parity should be observed in everything(profession, rights...)  Apart from this point of you I should admit that the only one sphere where just men should be involved in is medicine. |
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| Thu Jul 20, 2006 13:38 pm Equality of men and women |
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Hi Pamela,
You cannot be serious when you say:
| Quote: | | Apart from this point of view I should admit that the only one sphere where just men should be involved in is medicine. |
Why on earth do you say that?
This sounds a bit like a quote from Animal Farm:
All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.
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| Thu Jul 20, 2006 13:51 pm Equal rights between man and woman |
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| No, Alan, that's my personal opinion. I've seen many doctors men and women. To tell the truth, men were always more competent. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think that in the Uk and in every part of the world it's the same situation. I don't like to generalize. |
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| Fri Jul 21, 2006 23:48 pm Equal rights between man and woman |
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| mnd wrote: | In the bible it is said that we should not have equal rights with women.
Why do women advocate for equal rights between us and them? |
You need to show us in the Bible where it says women should not have equal rights. As Abraham Lincoln is claimed to have said, any fool with a cause can find a passage in scripture to support himself. (He also said, "A woman is the only thing I am afraid of that I know will not hurt me."  ) You could be misinterpreting biblical passages in light of your own local culture. This can be a problem, especially for Christians growing up in the midst of Muslim culture or extreme secularism.
Remember that it is a woman, not a man, who God said in Genesis will crush the head of the serprent. The Bible is full of important women who had as much power as men. Furthermore, in Catholic tradition, St. Teresa of Avila, St. Catherine of Siena, and St. Therese of Lisieux have been given the title of "Doctor of the Church" for their intellectual contributions to the faith. They join the ranks of several men in this.
Think about it: Would you be safer with a submissive wife who is not as strong or competent as a man, or would you be safer with a wife who is intelligent, strong and can protect you and take care of your business and personal matters when you are sick or old? My dad had the latter type of wife, and I'm telling you, it's much better than having the former!
By the way, men should not beat their wives, either. |
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| Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:05 am Equal rights between man and woman |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: | | This can be a problem, especially for Christians growing up in the midst of Muslim culture or extreme secularism. |
But what about adat? I'm not very familiar with the Muslim's family and religious theoretical basis (such as Koran), but as I heard, it actually claims 'equality', even though there is rather a few evidence of 'equal rights' for women in practice.
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| Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:09 am Equal rights between man and woman |
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| In the Bible it says if a man sees a woman among the captives and would like her for a wife, then he shalls bring her home and "go in unto her." Later, if he decides that he doesn't like her anymore, he can "let her go." |
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| Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:27 am Equal rights between man and woman |
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| cooliegirly wrote: | | In the Bible it says if a man sees a woman among the captives and would like her for a wife, then he shalls bring her home and "go in unto her." Later, if he decides that he doesn't like her anymore, he can "let her go." |
But which part of the Bible are we talking about? Everything changes from the Old to the New Testament. There are places in the Old Testament, for example, that call for the stoning to death of adulteresses (as is still done in parts of the Muslim world today), but in the New Testament this is clearly forbidden.
And does that passage describe a specific circumstance, or is it given as a general principle for all time? |
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| Sat Jul 22, 2006 13:06 pm Equal rights between man and woman |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: | | Everything changes from the Old to the New Testament. There are places in the Old Testament, for example, that call for the stoning to death of adulteresses (as is still done in parts of the Muslim world today), but in the New Testament this is clearly forbidden. |
Exactly. The Old Testament also states: 'An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth'.
Now Jesus changed that in the New Testament, He said 'Love your enemies' and 'A new commandment I give unto you, that you love one another as I have loved you'. |
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| Sat Jul 22, 2006 14:32 pm Equal rights between man and woman |
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| Conchita wrote: | Exactly. The Old Testament also states: 'An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth'.
Now Jesus changed that in the New Testament, He said 'Love your enemies' and 'A new commandment I give unto you, that you love one another as I have loved you'. |
Which some people misinterpret to mean that one should not defend oneself against attack or should not punish criminals. Of course it doesn't mean that. |
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| Wed Jul 26, 2006 23:40 pm Equal rights between man and woman |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: | | Conchita wrote: | Exactly. The Old Testament also states: 'An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth'.
Now Jesus changed that in the New Testament, He said 'Love your enemies' and 'A new commandment I give unto you, that you love one another as I have loved you'. |
Which some people misinterpret to mean that one should not defend oneself against attack or should not punish criminals. Of course it doesn't mean that. |
The difficult part is knowing the amount of violence that can be justified (if at all) as an act of self-defence. |
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| Wed Jul 26, 2006 23:58 pm Equal rights between man and woman |
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| Quote: | | In the bible it is said |
Well, if it is for somebody text written in the Bible, in the Koran or in any other Holy Book -
a reason to stop thinking than he is really in trouble.
My Holy Text is just the brain.
Please use it sometimes !!
It says if you do wrong it will come back to You sooner or later but come back with time.
I am so sad I thought that people are more responsible.
When this religion nightmare would be finally over.
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| Under Milk Wood | About virginity |
) 'being woman' means a bit more than just performing traditional 'female functions' (housewives, etc) - but also social ones (in a wide sense). Many of which are of unisex nature (range of professions, etc).