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If you should vs If you happen: which is 'more possible'? :)



 
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If you should vs If you happen: which is 'more possible'? :) #1 (permalink) Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:06 pm   If you should vs If you happen: which is 'more possible'? :)
 

I was taught that the pattern 'If you should' is rather formal and is used in the case when a speaker supposes an event (condition) to be very unlikely, just a chance possibility.

If your should see Ann, please ask her to phone me tomorrow.

OK.
My question is:

Is If you should equivalent (in the above sense) to If you happen or the latter still means 'more possible'? Or the latter is exactly the same, but just a bit less formal?
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Should/happen #2 (permalink) Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:31 pm   Should/happen
 

Hi Tamara,

You asked:

Quote:
If you should see Ann, please ask her to phone me tomorrow.

OK.
My question is:

Is If you should equivalent (in the above sense) to If you happen or the latter still means 'more possible'? Or the latter is exactly the same, but just a bit less formal?



I would say they are about the same - both indicating a tentative request. You can also say: If you should happen to meet ....

If by chance you meet ..

On the off chance that you meet
..

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If you should vs If you happen: which is 'more possible'? :) #3 (permalink) Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:35 pm   If you should vs If you happen: which is 'more possible'? :)
 

Hi Tamara

In American English, "If you happen to see" would be a much more typical expression. "If you should see" sounds fairly formal in AmE.

I'm not sure that I would think of "happen to" strictly as being used for "very unlikely" situations, though. It might be used in a situation where the degree of likelihood is simply unknown.

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If you should vs If you happen: which is 'more possible' #4 (permalink) Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:36 pm   If you should vs If you happen: which is 'more possible'
 

Tamara wrote:
Is If you should equivalent (in the above sense) to If you happen or the latter still means 'more possible'? Or the latter is exactly the same, but just a bit less formal?


- Should you see Ann...
- If you should see Ann...
- If you happen to see Ann..

all have the same meaning and are employed when there is a slight possibility of something happening. The last one is the most commonly used of the three.
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If you should vs If you happen: which is 'more possible' #5 (permalink) Mon Jul 24, 2006 16:31 pm   If you should vs If you happen: which is 'more possible'
 

Hi all

Alan wrote:
You can also say: If you should happen to meet ....

Oh yes… I've just forgotten it...
But I’ll never dare to use the pattern aloud Smile , as for me it sounds frightfully formal and bookish.

But you all gave me the ways how to avoid using if-should for ‘highly unlikely’ cases. I just don’t like the pattern – with no any reason. Smile

Thanks to you all!
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