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"usedn't to" vs. "usen't to"



 
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"usedn't to" vs. "usen't to" Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:16 am  "usedn't to" vs. "usen't to"
 

Hi teachers!!

What the different between the use of usedn't to and usen't to.

Is there any different between the two below?

He usedn't to go there very often.
He usen't to go there very often.

Thanks!!

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"usedn't to" vs. "usen't to" Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:47 am  "usedn't to" vs. "usen't to"
 

Those forms "usedn't to" and "usen't to" show up in ESL books written by foreigners, but I had never heard or read them in my entire life until I heard a foreign English teacher say them. And since she said them, I have never seen or heard them again.

I believe they are more or less obsolete in the UK. (Alan can correct me, if I'm wrong.) If you say them in the US or Canada, people will think they are not English and will correct you.

The best thing to do is to forget about "usedn't to" and "usen't to", and use "didn't use to" instead.
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"usedn't to" vs. "usen't to" Tue Jul 25, 2006 13:53 pm  "usedn't to" vs. "usen't to"
 

Hi Jamie,

Me too. This is the frist time I heard these words. Although, I am not English native speaker, I didn't read, listen and see in any book I've studied or bought for just reading. What I studied was "used to" and "did not use to". So I agree with you, it could be obsolete as you said.

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"usedn't to" vs. "usen't to" Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:57 am  "usedn't to" vs. "usen't to"
 

Hi teachers!!

If you say I should to forget that that is impossible, because I none-native English speaker so I have to know all the state-of-the-art or obsolete words use. To master one language knowledge, he must be aware of the old to, right?

I still ask the same question, is there any difference?
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"usedn't to" vs. "usen't to" Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:24 am  "usedn't to" vs. "usen't to"
 

soklong wrote:
If you say I should to forget that that is impossible, because I none-native English speaker so I have to know all the state-of-the-art or obsolete words use. To master one language knowledge, he must be aware of the old to, right?

I still ask the same question, is there any difference?
In my opinion, they are both wrong.

So, in that sense, there is no difference between usedn't to and usen't to.

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Used to Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:54 am  Used to
 

Hi Soklong,

Your quotes:

Quote:
He usedn't to go there very often.
He usen't to go there very often.

must go into the dustbin.

The negative of used to

in informal use is usually: didn't use(d) to

in formal use is usually: used not to

Some examples:

I really don't know what's the matter with you. You didn't use(d) to be so bad tempered

The regulations concerning smoking in public places used not to be taken so seriously in the past.

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"usedn't to" vs. "usen't to" Sat Jul 29, 2006 18:15 pm  "usedn't to" vs. "usen't to"
 

Alan wrote:
in informal use is usually: didn't use(d) to

Hello Amy

In response to my question once, you did not sell on this one, remember? Very Happy

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"usedn't to" vs. "usen't to" Sat Jul 29, 2006 22:52 pm  "usedn't to" vs. "usen't to"
 

Hi Tom

Sorry, I don't know what question you're referring to. I assume it was about "used to", but I don't understand what you're asking me now. Question

I see no problem with the negative "didn't use to".

Many native speakers also write "didn't used to", but most grammar books categorize this form as grammatically incorrect.

Does that answer your question?

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