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#2 (permalink) Fri Aug 04, 2006 15:00 pm Pronounce /ts/ or /s/ |
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. It is two nouns joined: /swet shirt/ -- and not to be confused with /tsi tsi/ or /shirts/ . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Fri Aug 04, 2006 15:23 pm Pronounce /ts/ or /s/ |
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Dear Sir,
In phonetics, there are 2 sounds: /s/ and /ts/ (/s/ in this case is not /s/ in "see")
So , please see the transcription of the word "actual" in the dictionary.What I'd like to ask, is:
with : /'a:ts.../
You pronounce only one sound /ts/ or you pronounce separately 2 sounds /t/ (quickly) and /s/.
Same question with "sweatshirt".The transcription in the dictionary is /'swets..t/ So, for this word, you pronounce 2 sounds /t/ and /s/ or only one sound /ts/
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Van Khanh I'm here quite often ;-)
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#4 (permalink) Fri Aug 04, 2006 21:34 pm Pronounce /ts/ or /s/ |
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| Van Khanh wrote: |
So , please see the transcription of the word "actual" in the dictionary.What I'd like to ask, is:
with : /'a:ts.../
You pronounce only one sound /ts/ or you pronounce separately 2 sounds /t/ (quickly) and /s/. |
What happened to the c in "actual"? Is ":" supposed to represent the c somehow?? 
| Van Khanh wrote: |
Same question with "sweatshirt".The transcription in the dictionary is /'swets..t/ So, for this word, you pronounce 2 sounds /t/ and /s/ or only one sound /ts/ |
In the word "sweatshirt", the t and the s just happen to be next to each other as a result of two nouns being combined. Sweat (including the t) and shirt are two separate and distinct syllables to me. In other words, I pronounce the word sweat the same way both as a stand-alone word ("sweat") and in combination with shirt ("sweatshirt").
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#5 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:20 am Pronounce /ts/ or /s/ |
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. As with the /dz/ sound we are discussing in another thread, Van, the IPA is a two-character transcription (which we cannot duplicate here, unfortunately-- it is a t followed by a long, attentuated s-shape) of a single sound. Its pronunciation is the ch of chair. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#6 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:56 am Pronounce /ts/ or /s/ |
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Van Khanh I'm here quite often ;-)
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#7 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:16 am Pronounce /ts/ or /s/ |
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Hi Amy,
Please see the phonetics transcription of "actual" /'aektsu..l/, of "sweatshirt" /'swets..t/ and of "adjective" /'aedzektiv/ in the dictionary.
What I'd like to know, that is when seeing /ts/ and /dz/, only /ts/ or/dz/ is pronounced or we have to pronounce separately 2 sounds /t/, /s/ or /d/, /z/.
With the help of Mister Micawer, I know only /ts/ or /dz/ is pronounced in these cases even though there are 6 sounds /ts/, /dz/, /t/, /s/, /d/, /z/ in English.
If you have another idea, please share with us. Thanks Khanh
PS: /s/, /z/, /ts/, /dz/ in these cases is as in "adjective", "actual", not /s/ in "see" and "z" in "zoo". |
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