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#2 (permalink) Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:44 am Told/telling |
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Telling is used here because this is assumed to be happening or ( in this case) not happening but told would suggest that it has already happened. _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Make or Do? |
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#3 (permalink) Tue Sep 27, 2005 16:10 pm Told/telling |
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| Alan wrote: |
| Telling is used here because this is assumed to be happening or ( in this case) not happening but told would suggest that it has already happened. |
Could you explain me the difference between tell and say, please? Thank you. |
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#4 (permalink) Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:47 am Tell/say |
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Hi,
Basically tell is similar to relate: as in tell a story
Say is similar to speak as in: say words
Look at this sentence:
She said she would tell a story.
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#5 (permalink) Tue Mar 21, 2006 15:32 pm Tell/say |
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| Alan wrote: |
Hi,
Basically tell is similar to relate: as in tell a story
Say is similar to speak as in:say words
Look at this sentence:
She said she would tell a story.
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Would you please explain the sentence to me.
Thanks a lot
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#6 (permalink) Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:51 am Telling vs. told |
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Hi,
I have two questions to ask of you because I am not clear enough with the sentence.
1. To me, 'Now that would be telling' suggests the subject is 'that'. I would feel more comfortable if the subject was a person and 'Now that would be told' would suggest a person. 2. Also to me, 'Now that would be told' is assumed to be happening or (in this case) not happening, too because of the word 'would'.
But I guess there should be something wrong with my understanding. Could you give me your explanations on these two points for me? Thank you very much.
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#7 (permalink) Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:44 am Telling vs. told |
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Hi Haihao
The word 'telling' is used as an adjective and I would understand the meaning in your sentence "Now that would be telling" to be one of these:
1. having force or effect; effective; striking: a telling blow. 2. revealing; indicative of much otherwise unnoticed: a telling analysis of motivation in business. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/telling
It's possible but much less likely (!!!) that this sentence could also be a conditional passive form of the verb 'tell' and refer to a possible future activity. This particular meaning would depend entirely on the context.
The verb 'tell' is usually followed by a person, but not always. Consider this sentence: He told the truth.
Your second sentence ('Now that would be told') isn't particularly meaningful to me with no context. However, the construction is a passive form of the verb 'tell' and would have a sense of a completed action in the conditional future.
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#8 (permalink) Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:43 am Telling vs. told |
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Hi Haihao,
I'm afraid I'm at a slight divergence with Amy over the expression: Now that would be telling. Admittedly telling as an adjective suggests effective and possibly evocative but in the test expression the word has a verbal function. The meaning is: Now if I told you what you wanted to know, that (the action of revealing the secret) would be me telling you what you want to know. In that sense it has a conditional function.
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#9 (permalink) Tue Dec 19, 2006 13:51 pm Telling vs. told |
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Hi Alan
My reaction was to what Haihao asked about ("Now that would be telling." and "Now that would be told."). In other words, I thought Haihao wanted to know about two complete sentences rather than two partial sentences or the test sentence.
Hi Haihao
Sorry, if the examples you gave were not intended to be complete sentences, then please ignore my previous post.
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#10 (permalink) Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:14 am Telling vs. told |
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Hi, Amy !
sorry for being thick-headed, but I can't get that sentence (i.e. Now that would be telling but my lips are sealed) I know that "my lips are sealed" means "I will not utter anything" but I dont know what "that" pertains to? Is it some kind of sourse of information which would be telling me some story?
Could you help me out with this one, please |
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#11 (permalink) Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:57 am telling vs. told |
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Hi Alan
Thank you for your explanation that say is similar to speak and tell is to relate story. A simple explanation that will burn my heart to remember.
Have a great day fil |
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#12 (permalink) Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:23 am Telling vs. told |
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| Lost_Soul wrote: |
| I know that "my lips are sealed" means "I will not utter anything" but I dont know what "that" pertains to? Is it some kind of sourse of information which would be telling me some story? |
Hello everyone,
"Now that would be telling but my lips are sealed."
I, too, don't get what antecedent 'that' refers to? _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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#13 (permalink) Sat May 30, 2009 17:23 pm telling vs. told |
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I also don't understand "Now that would be telling but my lips are sealed." sentence. hopefully someone help explain more. |
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#14 (permalink) Sat May 30, 2009 19:11 pm telling vs. told |
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If someone were to ask you to confirm a rumour that you knew to be the truth, you could rightfully say, " Now, THAT would be telling."
That is the manner and circumstance in which this phrase is uttered.
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#15 (permalink) Sun May 31, 2009 15:12 pm telling vs. told |
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| thx a lot. |
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