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Base vs Basis #1 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:56 am   Base vs Basis
 

What is the difference btw base (noun) and basis (noun) in:

1. The basis/base of morality/friendship.
Arguments that have a firm basis/base.
Rates of work are calculated on a weekly basis/base.
2. She used her family's history as a base/basis for her novel.
His arguments had a sound economic base/basis.

In these cases, "base" and "basis" are interchangeable?

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Base vs Basis #2 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 13:56 pm   Base vs Basis
 

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1. The basis/base of morality/friendship.
Arguments that have a firm basis/base.
Rates of work are calculated on a weekly basis/base.

2. She used her family's history as a base/basis for her novel.
His arguments had a sound economic base/basis.

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In these cases, "base" and "basis" are interchangeable?
I'd say no. I prefer basis for all of them.

You can use base as a verb in all but one of the sentences:
- His arguments are firmly based on fact.
- Their friendship is based on mutual respect.
- She based her novel on her family's history.
- His arguments are based on sound economic theory.


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Base vs Basis #3 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 13:58 pm   Base vs Basis
 

Base is generally (but not always) physical, and basis is generally abstract.

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1. The basis/base of morality/friendship.

It's abstract, so it should be basis. Base sounds wrong to me there.

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Arguments that have a firm basis/base.

It's abstract, so it should be basis. Base sounds wrong to me there.

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Rates of work are calculated on a weekly basis/base.

It's abstract, so it should be basis. Base sounds wrong to me there.

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2. She used her family's history as a base/basis for her novel.

It's abstract, so it should be basis. Base sounds wrong to me there.

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His arguments had a sound economic base/basis.

It's abstract, so it should be basis. Base sounds wrong to me there.

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In these cases, "base" and "basis" are interchangeable?

No.
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Base vs Basis #4 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 14:48 pm   Base vs Basis
 

Hi Amy,

Please read:

You can use base as a verb in all but one of the sentences:
- His arguments are firmly based on fact.
- Their friendship is based on mutual respect.
- She based her novel on her family's history.
- His arguments are based on sound economic theory.


"but one of the sentences" means:

For these 4 sentences, the use of the verb "base" is wrong?

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Base vs Basis #5 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 14:59 pm   Base vs Basis
 

All but one means that in three of the sentences the use of the word base is correct, and in one it is wrong.

However, the statement is wrong, because the verb base can be used, and is used correctly in all those sentences. They can also be put this way:

He bases his arguments firmly on fact.
They base their friendship on mutual respect.
Her novel is based on her family's history.
He bases his arguments on sound economic theory.
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Base vs Basis #6 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 15:11 pm   Base vs Basis
 

Hi Amy,

:? Right and wrong, wrong and right? :D

So, in short, all of the 4 sentences:

- His arguments are firmly based on fact.
- Their friendship is based on mutual respect.
- She based her novel on her family's history.
- His arguments are based on sound economic theory.

are correct in grammar and in meaning.OK?

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Base vs Basis #7 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 15:23 pm   Base vs Basis
 

I'm not Amy (and Santa Claus is really your parents), but yes, all of those sentences are correct.
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Base vs Basis #8 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 15:26 pm   Base vs Basis
 

Hi Khahn

You wrote 5 sentences/phrases in your first post and I changed 4 of them and used base as a verb. I changed all but one of your sentences/phrases; I changed 4 out of 5 of yours.

Yes, the 4 that I changed are:

- His arguments are firmly based on fact.
- Their friendship is based on mutual respect.
- She based her novel on her family's history.
- His arguments are based on sound economic theory.

These 4 sentences are correct. I wrote them to illustrate how to use base as a verb.

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Base vs Basis #9 (permalink) Sat Aug 05, 2006 15:29 pm   Base vs Basis
 

Hi Yankee, :D

Many thanks for your replies, Yannkee.

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Base vs Basis #10 (permalink) Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:07 am   Base vs Basis
 

Just a word of advice, Khann!

You should thank all the people who are helping you. :D Jammie, in this thread, answered three of your questions in detail.

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Base vs Basis #11 (permalink) Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:11 am   Base vs Basis
 

Yes yes,

Thanks very much for all.

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