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Did you ever use the contraction mayn't for 'may not'? | Base vs Basis
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"I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking" Sun Aug 06, 2006 17:05 pm  "I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking"
 

Hi

Could you please tell me the difference between:

1-I hate him joke.
2-I hate him joking.

1- It was a sorry sight to see you work like that.
2-It was a sorry sight to see you working like that.

1- She did not want her children to leave her alone.
2-She did not want her children leaving her alone.

Many, many thanks in advance

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"I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking" Mon Aug 07, 2006 13:47 pm  "I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking"
 

Hey, did noone like my question? Shocked

By the way, can I write noone the way I have used above?

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"I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking&q Mon Aug 07, 2006 17:31 pm  "I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking&q
 

Tom wrote:
1-I hate him joke.
2-I hate him joking.

The first one, with the base form of the verb, is complete nonsense in English and wouldn't be understood.
The second one means, "I hate it when he jokes."

Tom wrote:
1- It was a sorry sight to see you work like that.
2-It was a sorry sight to see you working like that.

These two mean the same thing, but in the second one there is more emphasis on the work being in progress during the "seeing".

Tom wrote:
1- She did not want her children to leave her alone.
2-She did not want her children leaving her alone.

I don't see any describable meaning difference between these two.
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"I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking" Mon Aug 07, 2006 20:32 pm  "I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking"
 

Many thanks, Jammie.

But, could you please shed some more light on the first one? Or am I to understand that:

Hate+somebody+ing form of verb (only)

1- I hate her shouting/ I love her shouting.(correct sentences??)

2- I hate him shout/ I love him shout(incorrect sentences???)

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"I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking" Mon Aug 07, 2006 20:39 pm  "I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking"
 

I hate him shout/ I love him shout Shocked Shocked As Jamie'd said it's a complete nonsense in English Very Happy

I hate her shouting/ I love her shouting. They are right.
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"I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking" Mon Aug 07, 2006 20:41 pm  "I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking"
 

The second pair of sentences is quite wrong, and sounds like the way some babies talk.

You could also say something with the infinitive, like, "I hate him to joke," or, "I hate her to shout." They have a different feel, but the meaning is not so different, at least to me.
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"I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking" Mon Aug 07, 2006 22:39 pm  "I hate him joke" vs "I hate him joking"
 

Hi Tom

To answer your other question, you should always write no one in American English (i.e., 2 separate words).
And, if I'm not mistaken, the Brits hyphenate it (when it means the same as "nobody"): no-one.
Wrting "noone" would be considered a misspelling. Shocked

And, just to make sure everything else is clear:
You cannot say "I hate him shout".

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