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#2 (permalink) Mon Aug 07, 2006 15:36 pm Using gerund |
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Hi jane337 I think this variant is right He insists on our coming back.
If I'm mistaken our moderators will correct me :D |
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Pamela I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#3 (permalink) Mon Aug 07, 2006 16:20 pm Using gerund |
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It's a little difficult. I couldn't restate that sentence using a gerund, because the result wouldn't mean the same thing.
He insists that we'll come back. This means he insists that it's true or sure that we will come back. He is making a prediction.
He insists on our coming back. This means that he is adamant that we must come back. It is understood that he commanded us to come back. The equivalent without a gerund would involve the subjunctive and be, He insists we come back. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#4 (permalink) Mon Aug 07, 2006 16:24 pm Using gerund |
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Hi Pamela
Your sentence has a different meaning! Your paraphrase would only work if the original sentence didn't have will in it: He insists that we come back. (come = subjunctive)
The original sentence "He insists that we will come back" means "He is sure that we will come back." He disagrees with someone else whose opinion is that we won't come back. He is insisting that he is right.
The only way I can think of at the moment to force the original sentence into a sentence using a gerund would be something like this:
He is sure of our coming back. -OR- He insists that he is right about our coming back.
But, I don't consider these sentences to be ideal either. It's better to leave the sentence with "that we'll come back".
Amy
oops... I see Jamie has already answered.... _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#5 (permalink) Mon Aug 07, 2006 16:34 pm Using gerund |
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| Yes, Amy and Jamie, having reread jane's sentence attentively I see that my variant is not suitable. |
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Pamela I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#6 (permalink) Mon Aug 07, 2006 17:18 pm Using gerund |
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| Oops,sorry :oops: I see that my sentence is not correct for using a gerund. Thanks you all! |
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Jane337 New Member
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