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#2 (permalink) Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:03 am Article (We need THE new curtains) |
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. a. We need the new curtains. You have already bought or ordered new curtains (and you might be justifying this fact, for example).
b. We need new curtains. You have not already bought or ordered new curtains. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#3 (permalink) Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:20 am Article (We need THE new curtains) |
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#4 (permalink) Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:24 pm Article (We need THE new curtains) |
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Dear teachers,
When I say:
Oranges are good for me.
"oranges" in this sentences means "all oranges".
Thus,
When I write:
We need new curtains.
Does "new curtains" mean "all new curtains"?
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#5 (permalink) Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:59 pm Article (We need THE new curtains) |
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Hi Tung Quoc
You're comparing sentences with two different verbs and that doesn't work very well.
Let me ask you a question:
What does "We need oranges" mean?
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#6 (permalink) Mon Aug 14, 2006 13:17 pm Article (We need THE new curtains) |
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Dear teacher, " Let me ask you a question:
What does "We need oranges" mean? "
It's what's I don't understand. I have a problem with an article.
You know, in class, my teacher said: Oranges are good for me. (oranges = all oranges). (general meaning)
But: I need oranges. or: I need new curtains.
I asked my teacher if "curtains" here means "all", she only smiles to me.
Up to now, I wonder what "new curtains" means? "New curtains" have the meaning "all"?If not, why there isn't an article?
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#7 (permalink) Mon Aug 14, 2006 13:36 pm Article (We need THE new curtains) |
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Hi Quoc
No, it doesn't really mean "all", it means "some". What is true is that the old curtains are not OK anymore. Therefore we need to buy (some) new curtains. But you don't know specifically which curtains yet.
You cannot say the new curtains before you have selected or bought new curtains.
I could also say "The oranges in that basket are bad for you" if those specific oranges are all old and rotten. You use the word the to talk about something (or things) specific.
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#8 (permalink) Sun Mar 30, 2008 19:59 pm Article (We need THE new curtains) |
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Dear Quoc,
I hope you have bought THE new curtains. We needed new curtains. The ones we had were very old.
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