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Live at a place vs. live by a place #1 (permalink) Tue Aug 22, 2006 15:30 pm   Live at a place vs. live by a place
 

English Grammar Tests, Elementary Level

ESL/EFL Test #82 "Prepositons Test", question 4

Suzanne who lives ......... that coffee shop place, came over to visit you this morning.

(a) on
(b) by
(c) at
(d) in

English Grammar Tests, Elementary Level

ESL/EFL Test #82 "Prepositons Test", answer 4

Suzanne who lives by that coffee shop place, came over to visit you this morning.

Correct answer: (b) by
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Is it possible to use at in the same sentence?

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Live at a place vs. live by a place #2 (permalink) Tue Aug 22, 2006 15:32 pm   Live at a place vs. live by a place
 

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Grammatically, both in and at are possible, but semantically, a coffee shop is not a domicile.
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Live at a place vs. live by a place #3 (permalink) Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:53 am   Live at a place vs. live by a place
 

Hi,

Could 'that coffee shop place' refer to 'that place in which the coffee shop is ' so that both in and at are possible not only grammatically but realistically as well?

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Live at a place vs. live by a place #4 (permalink) Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:37 am   Live at a place vs. live by a place
 

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Pursue probabilities, not possibilities, Haohai. Any of the prepositions given could be possible, but three of them are highly unlikely.

One of the most common failings of my students in trying to understand English is not using common sense-- they seem to think that the semantics of English works on a different logic than Japanese, and are thrown into a bear pit every time they meet words or situations that have more than one possible interpretation.
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Live at a place vs. live by a place #5 (permalink) Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:56 am   Live at a place vs. live by a place
 

Thank you for your advice, Mr Micawber. I would and should be more on my guard against the bad habit of spliting hairs instead of using common sense in learning English. But..., sometimes, it may relapse..., Embarassed , please forgive... Crying or Very sad

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Live at a place vs. live by a place #6 (permalink) Sun Aug 24, 2008 15:17 pm   Live at a place vs. live by a place
 

Does this "by the shop" means "near the shop" ?
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Live at a place vs. live by a place #7 (permalink) Sun Aug 24, 2008 15:23 pm   Live at a place vs. live by a place
 

Hi Marko,

Yes, 'by' means 'near' in this context.

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Hi MM

I agree with your take on the prepositions, but would like to mention the missing comma after 'Suzanne'.
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Live at a place vs. live by a place #8 (permalink) Wed Sep 23, 2009 22:03 pm   Live at a place vs. live by a place
 

hi,
I think this sentence is having an ambiguity interpretation.
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