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Hi Dasha
I've written my comments in the quote. Maybe someone else will have different or additional ideas.
Where did you get these questions?
Amy
| Daria wrote: | Hello everybody!
I found some questions to be very controversial.
If anybody has ideas about it, it will be great.
It will be also very kind of educators, if they express their opinions about it.
Thank you.
1. It is his dubious distinction to have proved what nobody would think of denying that Romero at the age of sixty four writes with all the characteristics of _________.
a. maturity
b. fiction
c. inventiveness
d. art
e. brilliance
(I wonder, how we can come up with the answer. Is the "age of sixty four" a clue?)
a. maturity seems to be the most logical choice based on 'dubious distinction', 'nobody would think of denying' and the age reference.
2. MAVERICK : CONFORMITY
a. renegade : ambition
b. extrovert : reserve
c. reprobate : humility
d. zealot : loyalty
e. strategist : decisiveness
(Actually, I do not see much difference between B and C.)
I'd have chosen b. extrovert : reserve
3. The newborn human infant is not a passive figure, nor an active one, but what might be called an actively _________ one, eagerly attentive as it is to sights and sounds.
a. adaptive
b. selective
c. inquisitive
d. receptive
e. intuitive
(Here I was sure that C and D is ok, but c is better. Conversely, D appeared to be better. I also do not see much difference)
I prefer d since "receptive" has a feeling of passivity.
4. BOLSTER
a. condense
b. undermine
c. disprove
d. cancel
e. misinterpret
(I do not know the right answer, but when I confidently chose "undermine" it was wrong)
I'd also have chosen undermine as an antonym. What did the makers of this test claim was correct?
5. DECOROUS
a. unlikely
b. uncomfortable
c. unrepentant
d. unseemly
e. unattractive
(Here I also do not know the right answer, but when I confidently chose "unseemly" it was also wrong)
Again, I'd have agreed with you and chosen unseemly as an antonym. What did the makers of this test claim was correct?
6. Politeness is not a _________ attribute of human behavior, but rather a central virtue, one whose very existence is increasingly being _______ by the faddish requirement to "speak one's mind."
a. commonplace.....threatened
b. pervasive.....undercut
c. worthless.....forestalled
d. precious.....repudiated
e. trivial.....affected
(It was the most difficult, no ideas why one is better then the other, especially why E is better then A.)
E. I think the word "trivial" (attribute) seems to fit well contrasted with ("but rather") "central value". Could you explain why you liked A?
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 15:20 pm Some controversial questions from the GRE tests |
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| Daria wrote: | Hello everybody!
I found some questions to be very controversial.
If anybody has ideas about it, it will be great.
It will be also very kind of educators, if they express their opinions about it.
Thank you.
1. It is his dubious distinction to have proved what nobody would think of denying that Romero at the age of sixty four writes with all the characteristics of _________.
a. maturity
b. fiction
c. inventiveness
d. art
e. brilliance
(I wonder, how we can come up with the answer. Is the "age of sixty four" a clue?)
This is a tricky question, but I think the key phrase is "dubious distinction," which implies that whatever "he" (not Romero) has proved about Romero is self-evident. Given that Romero is sixty-four, it is likely that no one would deny he writes with maturity, which makes the best answer a).
2. MAVERICK : CONFORMITY
a. renegade : ambition
b. extrovert : reserve
c. reprobate : humility
d. zealot : loyalty
e. strategist : decisiveness
(Actually, I do not see much difference between B and C.)
My guess is c). A reprobate might be said to spurn or reject humility, while an extrovert merely lacks reserve.
3. The newborn human infant is not a passive figure, nor an active one, but what might be called an actively _________ one, eagerly attentive as it is to sights and sounds.
a. adaptive
b. selective
c. inquisitive
d. receptive
e. intuitive
(Here I was sure that C and D is ok, but c is better. Conversely, D appeared to be better. I also do not see much difference)
The passage implies that while a newborn infant is neither active nor passive, it is nevertheless engaged by its environment. C) doesn't work as well because to be "eagerly attentive...to sights and sounds" is not necessarily to be inquisitive, but merely receptive (i.e. sensitive to such stimuli as sights and sounds).
4. BOLSTER
a. condense
b. undermine
c. disprove
d. cancel
e. misinterpret
(I do not know the right answer, but when I confidently chose "undermine" it was wrong)
I'm surprised it didn't like "undermine," which would make c) "disprove" the best bet. It seems they intend the word to be understood in the sense of to reinforce or support an argument...
5. DECOROUS
a. unlikely
b. uncomfortable
c. unrepentant
d. unseemly
e. unattractive
(Here I also do not know the right answer, but when I confidently chose "unseemly" it was also wrong)
This is also surprising, since "unseemly" is almost a perfect antonym for decorous. That's what I would have guessed, and frankly I think you should double-check to make sure you were mistaken.
6. Politeness is not a _________ attribute of human behavior, but rather a central virtue, one whose very existence is increasingly being _______ by the faddish requirement to "speak one's mind."
a. commonplace.....threatened
b. pervasive.....undercut
c. worthless.....forestalled
d. precious.....repudiated
e. trivial.....affected
(It was the most difficult, no ideas why one is better then the other, especially why E is better then A.)
Here, the first word in e) ("trivial") is better suited to the phrase, while the second word in a) ("threatened) works better than the more banal "affected". The phrase clearly implies that politeness is being adversely affected, which would seem to make a) a better choice - I'm very surprised that e) is the answer - are you absolutely sure?
I would say there's no shame in getting any of these wrong - these questions are more difficult than most you'll encounter on the verbal at even the highest level (I scored a 720).
Thank you for your consideration!
Best regards,
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 16:07 pm Some controversial questions from the tests |
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Dear, Amy!
Thank you for your help!
My comments are red.
| Yankee wrote: | Hi Dasha
I've written my comments in the quote. Maybe someone else will have different or additional ideas.
Where did you get these questions?
Amy
| Daria wrote: | Hello everybody!
I found some questions to be very controversial.
If anybody has ideas about it, it will be great.
It will be also very kind of educators, if they express their opinions about it.
Thank you.
1. It is his dubious distinction to have proved what nobody would think of denying that Romero at the age of sixty four writes with all the characteristics of _________.
a. maturity
b. fiction
c. inventiveness
d. art
e. brilliance
(I wonder, how we can come up with the answer. Is the "age of sixty four" a clue?)
a. maturity seems to be the most logical choice based on 'dubious distinction', 'nobody would think of denying' and the age reference.
Here I cannot understand the meaning and the role of "dubious distinction." Perhaps, I incorrectly understand the whole sentence. I think this way:
"it is ..... that" - means indeed
and the rest of the sentence probably means that thanks to his "dubious distinction" to prove things that do not require proof, Romero writes very professionaly, even though he is sixty four (strange... )
2. MAVERICK : CONFORMITY
a. renegade : ambition
b. extrovert : reserve
c. reprobate : humility
d. zealot : loyalty
e. strategist : decisiveness
(Actually, I do not see much difference between B and C.)
I'd have chosen b. extrovert : reserve
Maverick is a person with a lack of conformity.
Likewise, (i was thinking) reprobate has a lack of humility
and extrovert has a lack of reserve
Probably, there is another stronger connection between extrovert and reserve (like between maverick and conformity) which helps to exclude the choice "reprobate and humility", but i do not see it
3. The newborn human infant is not a passive figure, nor an active one, but what might be called an actively _________ one, eagerly attentive as it is to sights and sounds.
a. adaptive
b. selective
c. inquisitive
d. receptive
e. intuitive
(Here I was sure that C and D is ok, but c is better. Conversely, D appeared to be better. I also do not see much difference)
I prefer d since "receptive" has a feeling of passivity.
Fist i have chosen C between C and D. Probably, here "inquisitive" is not suitable because "active" is inextricable part of "inquisitive? If so, i did not realize that.
4. BOLSTER
a. condense
b. undermine
c. disprove
d. cancel
e. misinterpret
(I do not know the right answer, but when I confidently chose "undermine" it was wrong)
I'd also have chosen undermine as an antonym. What did the makers of this test claim was correct?
All these questions are from the web site BIGCDtests.com. This the very question is exactly from the 7-th GRE test. I was wondering whether I went crazy with all this GREstudy  . The makers do not give the answers, they just show what questions a student got wrong and approximate score.
5. DECOROUS
a. unlikely
b. uncomfortable
c. unrepentant
d. unseemly
e. unattractive
(Here I also do not know the right answer, but when I confidently chose "unseemly" it was also wrong)
Again, I'd have agreed with you and chosen unseemly as an antonym. What did the makers of this test claim was correct?
See number 4
6. Politeness is not a _________ attribute of human behavior, but rather a central virtue, one whose very existence is increasingly being _______ by the faddish requirement to "speak one's mind."
a. commonplace.....threatened
b. pervasive.....undercut
c. worthless.....forestalled
d. precious.....repudiated
e. trivial.....affected
(It was the most difficult, no ideas why one is better then the other, especially why E is better then A.)
E. I think the word "trivial" (attribute) seems to fit well contrasted with ("but rather") "central value". Could you explain why you liked A?
Actually, I thought that "commonplace" and "trivial" are synonyms, so I was choosing between "threatened" and "affected". And the word "increasingly" somehow led me to the answer A. I thought that "increasingly" shows that the action is continuous, not discrete, and I thought "affected" is discrete. That's intricate.... Anyway I was doubting.
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Thank very much for your attention and help.
Best regards,
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 17:15 pm Some controversial questions from the GRE tests |
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You're welcome, Dasha. I hope you also had a look at what mathisanathema wrote. There's lots of good input there.
Amy
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 20:33 pm Some controversial questions from the GRE tests |
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| I may have done well on the verbal, but as an English major I'm expected to. What's more, I absolutely capsized on the math section and am toying with the idea of rewriting. Best of luck with the verbal - feel free to post again if you come across any more devilish questions. |
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| Mon Aug 28, 2006 20:46 pm Some controversial questions from the GRE tests |
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Thanks Amy for wishes.
We usually say to a person, "No down, no feather!" (instead of good luck)
and he or she must answer, "To devil!" (or "for devil!" i am not sure what is closer)
But all russian dictionaries translate "No down, no feather" like "good luck!"
On my second try i got exactly the same score on verbal (450), and exactly the same score on quantitive(670), and exactly the same score on writing. Moreover, I got the same argument topic on writing section. Total 1120, and 4 for essays. Bad, but stimulating....
After that I much admire GRE test and consider it the pre-eminent exam (i have ever taken.) Amazing accuracy. |
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| Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:11 am Some controversial questions from the GRE tests |
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Thank you, Mathisanathema, for offering help.
Yesterday I saw another strange question:
Use of the company limousine is just one of the _______ of being executive vice-president.
a. tenets
b. prerequisites
c. prerogatives
d. perquisites
e. precepts
I have chosen C first, because I did not know that the second meaning of "perquisites" is "privilege". The right answer is D. But I cannot understand the difference between C and D. If I knew the second meaning while taking test, I would be confused.
Would you please comment on it?
Thanks
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| Tue Aug 29, 2006 21:41 pm Some controversial questions from the GRE tests |
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| "Prerogatives" is not a bad guess, but it implies a distinct right or entitlement where "perquisite" implies a particular privilege or benefit, typically enjoyed by someone occupying a particular profession or holding a special status. In this case, while it may well be the VP's prerogative to take the limousine, it is also one of the perquisites that his position entails. It might clarify the issue somewhat to know that the work "perquisite" is often abridged to "perk." |
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| Fri Sep 01, 2006 16:43 pm Some controversial questions from the GRE tests |
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Hi Amy!
Hi Mathisanathema!
Hi everybody!
I just want to share my feelings after taking GRE (30th of August). I got V520 and Q800. That's better then previous score. I known people here usually get more than or around 1400, and usually more than V600, but I am not that person, and, moreover, I do not known anybody beyond this forum who scored more than 1190 or even took this test. So, I am not that disappointed.
On verbal I answered only 21 questions and ran out of time. I have two weak points: reading comprehension and time on verbal part (but, probably, they are mutually connected).
So, within first 23 questions i got all reading comprehension questions, and scored for verbal less than i could. Additionaly, all texts were significantly longer than they should be, and the longest one was about literature (that's bad because humanities are my weak points.). I would prefer text on biology, or physics, or georgaphy, or geology, or on other natural or physico-mathematical science.
To put it a pessimistic way, I could do much better if I had at least 2 texts first, and the last text for 29th and 30th questions, since for me other types of questions were easy.
But, to put it an optimistic way, thanks to my good knowledge of vocabulary and correct answers for antonyms, analogies, and sentence completion questions, I got 520 even though completed only 21 questions and got difficult and long texts; moreover, i wanted to get minimum 500 for verbal.
For maths I wanted not less than 800 and got it.
Once again, thanks Amy and mathisanathema for great help. I am going to prepare for GRE Subject Chemistry, but, who knows, maybe I will decide to take GRE General once again  and return to this forum.
Best regards,
good luck,
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| Fri Sep 01, 2006 18:49 pm Some controversial questions from the GRE tests |
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Hi Dasha
Congratulations! Your score certainly deserves a round of applause! My information is that the average scores for the GRE are 470 for Verbal and 570 for Quantitative. So, you did very well!
It's a shame that simply the order of the questions might have had a negative impact on your verbal score. But what you mentioned is often true: many people are more proficient in certain types of texts, and less in others.
Still, you did quite well!
Thanks for the feedback and keep in touch.
Amy
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We'll keep our fingers (and all of our toes) crossed for you on August 30. 