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#1 (permalink) Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:46 am In case of + article or not? |
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Dear teachers,
Please read: If there is an accident, please call 888. (1) If there is a fire, ring the bell. (2)
1/ (1) has the same meaning with : (A) or (B)? A.In case of accident, please call 888. B.In case of an accident, please call 888.
After “In case of +noun”, we use or don’t use an article? What is the difference in meaning btw (A) and (B)(both are correct or only one of them is correct?)? Is there a rule?
2/ (2) has the same meaning with : (C) or (D)? C.In case of fire, please call 888. D.In case of a fire, please call 888. After “In case of +noun”, we use or don’t use an article? What is the difference in meaning btw (C) and (D)? (both are correct or only one of them is correct?) Is there a rule?
3/ If only (A) and (C) are correct, why in (1), (2) there is an article, but in (A), (C) there isn’t an article? Is there a change of the meaning when leaving out an article ?
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#2 (permalink) Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:56 am Articles |
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Hi,
Your question is really whether or not you use the indefinite article with fire and accident. Fire can be conflagration in a general sense, then it will not usually have an articles or it can be a collection of flames, then it will attract an article. Accident is a countable noun and the usually rules apply.
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#3 (permalink) Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:09 am Articles |
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Dear teacher,
You wrote:
1. " Fire can be conflagration in a general sense, then it will not usually have an article... "
So, the sentence:
If there is fire, ring the bell. is correct. (A)
Is it right?
2. "....it can be a collection of flames, then it will attract an article." That means "fire" in this case has an article.
So, the sentence:
If there is a fire, ring the bell. is correct. (B)
Is it right?
If not, what is the difference in meaning btw (A) and (B)? What is wrong in (A)?
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#4 (permalink) Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:15 am Difference |
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Hi,
I have already described the difference.
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#5 (permalink) Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:50 am Difference |
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Dear Sir,
Dear teacher,
You wrote:
1. " Fire can be conflagration in a general sense, then it will not usually have an article... "
That means "fire" can be used without an article.
So, the sentence:
If there is fire, ring the bell. is correct.
But, why teacher Amy and my teacher said (A) is incorrect?
Please explain me.
I go to school now to meet my anaesthetizing teacher because I have class now and I return in 3 hours.
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#6 (permalink) Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:32 am Fire |
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Hi,
I can only repeat that if you want to ask questions, then you should spend a little time looking at the explanations before you send off another question. The sentence:
| Quote: | | If there is fire, ring the bell. is correct. | that you have posted does not chime with the explanation I gave because this is not an example of a general use of the word 'fire' it is a specific use of the word and in effect means as I have already said, a collection of flames and so it follows that you would say: If there is A fire ..
I must admit I find it very irritating the way you repeat the same questions over and over again and you take no notice of an explanation.
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#7 (permalink) Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:50 am Fire |
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Dera Sir,
I understand now. Thanks you very much.
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