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#2 (permalink) Wed Sep 06, 2006 18:06 pm Accent of Pakistani English |
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Hi Tom,
I haven't heard Benazir Bhutto speak so I can't give you an opinion on her pronunciation but I have heard Pervez Musharraf give press conferences a few times. He has this distinct accent of Indian born people who speak English as a second language. Clearly he has been using English on a daily basis for quite a while so he can express any of his thoughts fluently.
Come to think of it, his English probably also has been influenced by Pakistan born English speakers because Indian born might have a slightly different intonation.
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#3 (permalink) Wed Sep 06, 2006 18:38 pm Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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Hi Tom
Benazir Bhutto speaks excellent, clear English. She has a mild accent - which I assume comes from Pakistan - but it makes her English all the more beautiful and interesting, in my opinion.
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#4 (permalink) Wed Sep 13, 2006 20:34 pm Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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On second thought, has anyone of you heard Imran Khan speak English? By the way, he is the former cricket player of Pakistan? Studied in the UK and famous for his English here!
Tom
PS: Amy, have you heard him also? |
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#6 (permalink) Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:49 am Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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Tom, you and I have talked about our youthful crushes on Heddy Lamar, and I hope you're sitting down when I tell you this. When I was younger (or more accurately, when she was younger) I had a very bad crush on Benezir Bhutto!
Her English, from what I've heard of it, is nearly perfect. She has that Pakistani accent, but a Hindi or Urdu accent is considered one of the ordinary accents of near-native English, as long as it's not too thick. |
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#8 (permalink) Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:31 pm Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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| Tom wrote: |
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| Her English, from what I've heard of it, is nearly perfect |
Now it's gonna make us competitors, Jamie! 
I like(d) H. Lamarr with all my heart, and ( so do you )
I like(d) Benezir Bhutto a lot, and ( so do you ) |
I'll see you after school, outside by the bike racks! 
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| Anyway, could you please elaborate on your point a bit more? What do you mean by hear of? Haven't you heard B. Bhutto yourself? If no, how come you could develop a crush on a person you had never heard? |
Sure, I've heard her speaking to the press and giving speeches, but that doesn't mean anyone's English sounds good all the time. I don't know what she sounds like when she's sleepy, when she's angry, or when she's just having a normal conversation. I just know that her English in official situations sounds good.
I think I've mentioned before that a Canadian disk jockey used to do a very good imitation of Jean Chretien, who was the Canadian prime minister at the time. Using this voice he was able to get through on the phone to Queen Elizabeth and broadcast a few minutes of the conversation on the radio before the queen realized something was wrong. When she thought she was talking to a "work colleague", so to speak, Queen Elizabeth sounded just like a regular old lady. I was surprised. |
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#9 (permalink) Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:53 am Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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Hi All, Hey you native speakers!  What do you think of Arnold's English? Like it? Spencer |
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#10 (permalink) Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:08 pm Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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Hi Spencer
The Governator's English was pretty bad when he first moved to the US. His English was better by the time he made his first film, but his accent was still so heavy, that he wasn't easy to understand and his lines had to be dubbed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_in_New_York
Nowadays, he still has a German accent, but it's not as "thick" as it once was and he's easy to understand. His command of English is excellent. I like his accent. 
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#11 (permalink) Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:27 pm Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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| Arnold still has the heavy Austrian accent that made him perfect for playing robots in science fiction movies. However, his grammar and command of idioms and collocations is so perfect that if you didn't hear the accent, you generally wouldn't know he was an immigrant. But oddly, despite the quality of his English, when he's talking off the cuff, instead of "with" he says "mit" most of the time. That's his only real mistake. |
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#12 (permalink) Tue Jan 08, 2008 23:28 pm Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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| Tom wrote: |
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I would like to know if anyone has ever heard Benezir Bhutto, former Prime Minister of Pakistan, deliver an English speech! If yes, how did you find her? Is she good at language?
Tom |
Hi Tom,
It just occurred to me that you spelled Benezir Bhutto's name "Benezir" instead of Benazir. Was that a type or just a different spelling of her name?
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#13 (permalink) Tue Jan 08, 2008 23:37 pm Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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I think the person ,who killed the Prime Minister of Pakistan is not a good persob,but I'm moreinterested,why did he decide to become a terroris ?! _________________ Bombing for peace is like f.. for virginity |
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#14 (permalink) Wed Jan 09, 2008 0:09 am Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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| Che Gevara wrote: |
| I think the person ,who killed the Prime Minister of Pakistan is not a good persob,but I'm moreinterested,why did he decide to become a terroris ?! |
Usually there's no justifiable reason for it. Someone even strapped bombs to a baby in an attempt to kill her. It doesn't matter what made him decide to do it. Any reason he'd give would just be an excuse. |
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#15 (permalink) Wed Jan 09, 2008 16:04 pm Benezir Bhutto: Former Prime Minister of Pakistan |
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Hi
It can be spelled both ways, Torsten. For example,
Ahmed or Ahmad
Umer or Omer
Aysha or Ayesha
PS: The interesting thing is that there is a typo in your "typo". |
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