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Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights... Thu Sep 07, 2006 20:21 pm  Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights...
 

Hi

Have you ever read Mickey Spillane? If no, please read the given lines and answer the questions.

" I could see the lights on downstairs. I grinned to myself, braked the Ford, and followed the curve of it up to the house.

What a damn fool I am, I thought. Do I shake hands or slap somebody's tail for them? This was no prodigal son returning and if I expected a happy homecoming I was blowing smoke all the way."

Q1- Lights on downstairs?? Why on?
Q2- Could you please explain the bold lines to me? What is he trying to say?

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Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights... Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:58 am  Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights...
 

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Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights... Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:08 am  Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights...
 

Tom wrote:
Have you ever read Mickey Spillane? If no, please read the given lines and answer the questions.

I have read Mickey Spillane... Wink Laughing
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Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights... Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:11 am  Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights...
 

How can I believe, Amy, until I see your explanation? Very Happy

Please do!

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Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights... Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:42 am  Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights...
 

Hi Tom

"I could see the lights on downstairs."
I imagine he is outside a two-story house at night and he can see light in the windows on the ground floor (because inside the house some or all of the lights on the ground floor are on. Wink) And all of the second story windows are dark (because inside the house all of the lights on the upper floor are off. Wink

"What a damn fool I am, I thought. Do I shake hands or slap somebody's tail for them? This was no prodigal son returning and if I expected a happy homecoming I was blowing smoke all the way."

Idiom: "blow smoke"
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/blow+smoke
Idiom: "prodigal son"
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/prodigal+son

Normally when someone returns after being away for an extended period of time, the homecoming is happy and pleasant. People are glad to see you again and shaking hands would be a friendly and normal thing to do.

In your quote, there has obviously been some sort of trouble in the past (with the people who live in the house) and the writer is saying that he'd only be fooling himself if he thought his arrival would be a happy event.

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Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights... Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:08 pm  Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights...
 

slap somebody's tail

Many thanks, Amy.

Could you tell what it means? Google does not show it.

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Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights... Sat Sep 09, 2006 13:16 pm  Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights...
 

Hi Tom

I'm not 100% sure what is meant by "slap somebody's tail for them".

When you slap someone you hit them with an open hand --- usually on the face.

The word tail could refer to a person's rear end.
Theoretically, tail might also be a reference to "a person assigned or employed to follow and report on someone else's movements and actions"

I don't understand why "for them" was added after "slap somebody's tail." (I have no idea who "them" is and why "them" would want a tail to be slapped. Wink)

Without further context (more of the story), I don't know exactly what the meaning is.

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Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights... Sat Sep 09, 2006 17:22 pm  Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights...
 

Amy wrote:
on the face.

Amy, could we also say:

I hit him on the face.

Is there any difference between hit in the face and hit on the face?

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Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights... Sat Sep 09, 2006 18:17 pm  Lines from Mickey Spillane: I could see the lights...
 

Hi Tom

I used the word on because I was describing the general surface area of contact (i.e., on the face rather than on the tail) and not a blow itself. The usual point of contact/location of a slap is somewhere on the face. You could, however, slap someone on some other part of the body.

When describing a blow itself, the most typical preposition used with slap or hit is in.

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