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Comma or semi colon? #1 (permalink) Wed Sep 27, 2006 20:42 pm   Comma or semi colon?
 

Hi

Please see below:

1- Do not fret, she will get here in time.
2- Do not fret; she will get here in time.
3- Do not fret. She will get here in time.
4- Do not fret- she will get here in time.

Are all the sentences correct? If yes, where are the rules of punctuation leading us?

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Punctuation guru #2 (permalink) Wed Sep 27, 2006 20:56 pm   Punctuation guru
 

Hi, Tom
Do punctuation marks trouble you today? :wink: Sentences 2 and 4 are probably incorrect.

In addition to 1 and 3.
Do not fret! She will get here in time. :wink:

Just my thoughts.

P.S. English Grammar books provide good explanation of usage the punctuation marks. :wink:
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Punctuation guru #3 (permalink) Wed Sep 27, 2006 21:06 pm   Punctuation guru
 

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I'm going to wait for the punctuation guru (MM). 8) :wink:
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Punctuation guru #4 (permalink) Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:59 am   Punctuation guru
 

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1- Do not fret, she will get here in time. -- wrong; this is a comma splice error (a comma but no conjunction between independent clauses.

2- Do not fret; she will get here in time. -- fine

3- Do not fret. She will get here in time. -- Punctuation is fine; one point off for choppy style: a series of short simple sentences that would be better more closely associated.

4- Do not fret-- she will get here in time. -- (Notice that the convention is two hyphens for an m-dash) This is fine in informal (and these days, increasingly formal) writing.
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Mister Micawber is our Punctuation guru! #5 (permalink) Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:07 am   Mister Micawber is our Punctuation guru!
 

Mister Micawber, Amy is absolutely right: You are our Punctuation Guru!

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Comma or semi colon? #6 (permalink) Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:51 am   Comma or semi colon?
 

Mister Micawber, from your explanation I understand that
Do not fret,( conj) she will get here in time is correct, right?

I consider this sentence as a compound one. I've read that independent sentences are usually joined by means of a comma and a coordinating conjunction.

But in one of my grammar books I found such an example:

The train fell softly, the house was quiet. (joined asyndetically) Personally, I'd used semicolon instead.

Give me some feedback, please.

Do you agree with me that the 2nd sentence given by Tom is the best choice?
Semicolon binds two independent clauses more closely.
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Comma or semi colon? #7 (permalink) Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:06 am   Comma or semi colon?
 

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The train fell softly, the house was quiet.

Yes, plenty of these exist, and it is often an effective literary technique. For students, however-- and I don't know how to remind people continuously that I am speaking for the benefit of learners at this site-- the comma splice is a common and often tested grammar 'mistake'.

Yes, the semicolon is the best choice here (even though I myself am using m-dashes more and more).

As for being a guru-- just wait till I mess up on the quotation marks!
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Comma or semi colon? #8 (permalink) Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:10 am   Comma or semi colon?
 

Thanks a lot, Mister Micawber!
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