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Speaking about words, as the subject #1 (permalink) Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:55 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

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ESL/EFL Test #99 "Student Teacher Dialogue (2)", question 7

Teacher: Ah you see whereas in means you are there inside ......... into means you enter as: You go into the room.

(a) how
(b) when
(c) ever
(d) however

English Language Tests, Intermediate level

ESL/EFL Test #99 "Student Teacher Dialogue (2)", answer 7

Teacher: Ah you see whereas in means you are there inside however into means you enter as: You go into the room.

Correct answer: (d) however
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Speaking about words, as the subject #2 (permalink) Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:57 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

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I agree that something really ought to be done to make this sentence more readable. The words 'in' and 'inside' could be put in quotes or they could be italicized.

In the sentence, the usage of the words whereas and however is not correct. You can use one or the other in this sentence, but not both. Since the word however is the target word, I would suggest simply deleting the word whereas.
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Speaking about words, as the subject #3 (permalink) Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:38 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

Hi,

Why "when" is incorrect?

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Speaking about words, as the subject #4 (permalink) Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:47 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

The word needs to describe an opposing viewpoint. 'When' is not used for that purpose.

As Yankee says, the lack of punctuation and use of 'whereas' means that this sentence appears to be a total mess. Unfortunately I don't have access to this test to be able to edit it.
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Speaking about words, as the subject #5 (permalink) Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:56 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

Hi,Beeesneees

Thank you for your reply. And the question seems don't have the problem you said now.

But why we need to use however. I think "in" and "into" not the opposite words. Can we use "when" or "while" in this sentence?
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Speaking about words, as the subject #6 (permalink) Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:02 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

You could use 'while' but it is not an option.
'When' is incorrect there.
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Speaking about words, as the subject #7 (permalink) Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:37 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

Hi,Beeesneees

Thank you again. And can you tell me what is the difference between "when" and "while". Could you take an example for me?

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Speaking about words, as the subject #8 (permalink) Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:22 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

Have you tried looking for these conjunctions in a learner's dictionary. I doubt I could explain any clearer and there are usually examples:

http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/while
as a conjunction
http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/when_3
as a conjunction

http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/when
as an adverb
http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/when_2
as a pronoun.

http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/while_2
as a noun
http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/while_3
as a verb
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Speaking about words, as the subject #9 (permalink) Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:58 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

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Hi Wly,

Very generally 'when' refers to a time and 'while' refers to a 'duration'.

Look at these:

I learned the language when I lived in that country. This specifies the time when you did this,

I learned how to cook while I lived (I was living) on my own. This refers to something you did during that period of time.

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Speaking about words, as the subject #10 (permalink) Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:04 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

Hi,Beeesneees and Alan

Thank you for your reply. You always reply soon and give me good explanation. It's really useful. Thank you :)

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Speaking about words, as the subject #11 (permalink) Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:13 am   Speaking about words, as the subject
 

I would still encourage you to use a dictionary before asking such questions. It's what will turn you into an independent learner. :)
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