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#2 (permalink) Fri Oct 13, 2006 21:28 pm Expression: He was a member of the medical profession |
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Hello Tamara
The expression is used of many different professions: legal, teaching, medical, nursing, dental, actuarial, journalistic, theatrical, etc. Also humorously: "he's a member of the busybodying profession".
But on the whole, "legal", "teaching", and "medical" are probably the most common.
I myself would usually say "teacher", "solicitor", etc. But like many periphrastic expressions, it's useful if you want to convey "distance"; or if you want to emphasise the "professional" aspect of the occupation.
All the best,
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#3 (permalink) Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:26 am Expression: He was a member of the medical profession |
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It's nice to see you here, MrP. :mrgreen:
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| 2. Can it be used in relation to any profession or only to some 'traditional' ones (medicine, teaching, law,..)? |
Hi Tamara
Yes, I use the word profession, but like MrP, I'd usually say teacher, doctor, lawyer, etc. Saying "a member of the teaching profession" sounds quite formal.
Hmmm... The words solicitor :wink: and traditional and profession have triggered another thought: You should be very careful about saying that someone is a member of "the oldest profession".
But that's a whole nother story... 8)
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#4 (permalink) Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:45 am Expression: He was a member of the medical profession |
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Hi Thanks a lot, MrPedantic and Amy.
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"legal", ... "solicitor"
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Could anybody give an additonal comment about the bunch of those different words used for 'jurisprudence' as an area of professional activity? I am always confused when have needs to use the right word from the area...
In simple words: jurisprudence = law ? solicitor – a person practising in the area ? lawyer ? (just qualified in the law?) legal - an adverb describing what?
Tamara
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solicitor You should be very careful about saying that someone is a member of "the oldest profession". |
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#5 (permalink) Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:24 am Law etc |
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Hi Tamara,
These words:
jurisprudence = law ?
Well this means the science or philosphy of law - sort of fancy word. People usually go for the Latin when they want to impress
solicitor – a person practising in the area ?
This person is usually office based and deals with things like house purchase/divorce/wills/ and supports a barrister who is the one appearing for/against the accused in a court of law
lawyer ? (just qualified in the law?) Generally a name for someone qualified in/practising the law. A generic name as is teacher.
legal - an adverb describing what?
Adjective describing anything to do with the law as in: legal representative/age/question/matters/aid.
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#6 (permalink) Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:52 am Law etc |
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Thank you, Alan. It’s very useful to see the definitions altogether :)
So, a solicitor is a lawyer, but a lawyer can be not only a solicitor. OK.
Legal makes more emphasis on the professional activity, whereas law – more on the knowledge area itself.
If this simplification is acceptable, roughly and 'generally', thanks a lot! _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#7 (permalink) Sat Oct 14, 2006 22:36 pm Law etc |
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So, a solicitor is a lawyer, but a lawyer can be not only a solicitor. OK.
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#8 (permalink) Sat Oct 14, 2006 23:30 pm Law etc |
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| I wonder where the word attorney fits in all this? |
'Attorney' is AmE for 'lawyer'. That's English for you! |
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#9 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 0:42 am Law etc |
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| sls wrote: |
| I wonder where the word attorney fits in all this? |
'Attorney' is AmE for 'lawyer'. That's English for you! |
Hi Conchita, I don't quite understand what you mean with 'That's English for you!' Maybe I'm interpreting it too literally. Would you explain it to me? :oops:
It's just that according to my dictionary 'attorney' has the meaning of 'lawyer' (as in defender), but it has a note that in AmE the 'disctrict attorney' is the prosecutor, i.e. 'accuser', of some district. Now I'm all confused :(
The reason why I'm interested in the terminology is because I like movies that take place in the courtroom.
Note to self - next time you watch one of these, pay attention to the exact usage of words related to law.
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#10 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:31 am Legal terms |
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'That's English/life/children, etc. for you' is an expression of resignation that has the sense of 'That's how it is/you'll have to accept it as it is/there's nothing you can do about it'.
As for the legal terminology, you seem to know more than I do. According to the dictionary, a district attorney (abbreviation DA) is "a lawyer whose job is to represent the government in a particular area of the US".
Legal dictionaries should be of help to you:
http://www.lexscripta.com/legal/dictionaries/general.html |
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#11 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:51 am Expression: He was a member of the medical profession |
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Hi Conchita
Are the commonly used expression like 'Such is life' (or the well famous French original(?) phrase :)) or 'Such is the world' are the exact equivalents (in meaning) to 'That’s life', etc? _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#12 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:51 am Expression: He was a member of the medical profession |
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Hi Conchita,
Just for the record I'd like to say how spot on your explanations always are. Makes me feel quite 'umble.
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#13 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:05 am C'est la vie! |
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Hi Conchita
Are the commonly used expression like 'Such is life' (or the well famous French original(?) phrase :)) or 'Such is the world' are the exact equivalents (in meaning) to 'That’s life', etc? |
While 'such is life' is another way of saying 'that's life', I wouldn't use 'such is the world' as an equivalent, unless I was referring to the earth or its people. I mean that, to me, life is an abstract concept and the world is a physical thing.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/10/messages/385.html |
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#14 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:13 am Expression: He was a member of the medical profession |
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Thanks, Conchita. Your explanations are perfect. _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#15 (permalink) Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:02 am Expression: He was a member of the medical profession |
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I would like to express my gratitude too, Conchita. I found the information I was looking for by following your link. I should have googled it myself but... :oops: C'est la vie. |
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