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Expression: He was a member of the medical profession Fri Oct 13, 2006 21:32 pm  Expression: He was a member of the medical profession
 

Hi

'member of (the) profession' was new for me, but now I know from thefreedictionary that:

Quote:
profession
c. The body of qualified persons in an occupation or field: members of the teaching profession.

OK.

1. Do you normally use this expression?

2. Can it be used in relation to any profession or only to some 'traditional' ones (medicine, teaching, law,..)? Smile
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Expression: He was a member of the medical profession Fri Oct 13, 2006 22:28 pm  Expression: He was a member of the medical profession
 

Hello Tamara

The expression is used of many different professions: legal, teaching, medical, nursing, dental, actuarial, journalistic, theatrical, etc. Also humorously: "he's a member of the busybodying profession".

But on the whole, "legal", "teaching", and "medical" are probably the most common.

I myself would usually say "teacher", "solicitor", etc. But like many periphrastic expressions, it's useful if you want to convey "distance"; or if you want to emphasise the "professional" aspect of the occupation.

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Expression: He was a member of the medical profession Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:26 am  Expression: He was a member of the medical profession
 

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2. Can it be used in relation to any profession or only to some 'traditional' ones (medicine, teaching, law,..)?

Hi Tamara

Yes, I use the word profession, but like MrP, I'd usually say teacher, doctor, lawyer, etc. Saying "a member of the teaching profession" sounds quite formal.

Hmmm... The words solicitor Wink and traditional and profession have triggered another thought:
You should be very careful about saying that someone is a member of "the oldest profession".

But that's a whole nother story... Cool

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Expression: He was a member of the medical profession Sat Oct 14, 2006 8:45 am  Expression: He was a member of the medical profession
 

Hi
Thanks a lot, MrPedantic and Amy.
Tamara wrote:
law
MrPedantic wrote:
"legal",
...
"solicitor"
Yankee wrote:
lawyer

Could anybody give an additonal comment about the bunch of those different words used for 'jurisprudence' as an area of professional activity? I am always confused when have needs to use the right word from the area...

In simple words:
jurisprudence = law ?
solicitor – a person practising in the area ?
lawyer ? (just qualified in the law?)
legal - an adverb describing what?

Tamara
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solicitor
You should be very careful about saying that someone is a member of "the oldest profession".
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Law etc Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:24 am  Law etc
 

Hi Tamara,

These words:

jurisprudence = law ?

Well this means the science or philosphy of law - sort of fancy word. People usually go for the Latin when they want to impress

solicitor – a person practising in the area ?

This person is usually office based and deals with things like house purchase/divorce/wills/ and supports a barrister who is the one appearing for/against the accused in a court of law

lawyer ? (just qualified in the law?)
Generally a name for someone qualified in/practising the law. A generic name as is teacher.

legal - an adverb describing what?

Adjective describing anything to do with the law as in: legal representative/age/question/matters/aid.

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Law etc Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:52 am  Law etc
 

Thank you, Alan.
It’s very useful to see the definitions altogether Smile

So, a solicitor is a lawyer, but a lawyer can be not only a solicitor. OK.

Legal makes more emphasis on the professional activity, whereas law – more on the knowledge area itself.

If this simplification is acceptable, roughly and 'generally', thanks a lot!
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Law etc Sat Oct 14, 2006 23:36 pm  Law etc
 

Tamara wrote:
So, a solicitor is a lawyer, but a lawyer can be not only a solicitor. OK.

I wonder where the word attorney fits in all this?
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Law etc Sun Oct 15, 2006 0:30 am  Law etc
 

sls wrote:
I wonder where the word attorney fits in all this?

'Attorney' is AmE for 'lawyer'. That's English for you!
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Law etc Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:42 am  Law etc
 

Conchita wrote:
sls wrote:
I wonder where the word attorney fits in all this?

'Attorney' is AmE for 'lawyer'. That's English for you!

Hi Conchita,
I don't quite understand what you mean with 'That's English for you!' Maybe I'm interpreting it too literally. Would you explain it to me? Embarassed

It's just that according to my dictionary 'attorney' has the meaning of 'lawyer' (as in defender), but it has a note that in AmE the 'disctrict attorney' is the prosecutor, i.e. 'accuser', of some district. Now I'm all confused Sad

The reason why I'm interested in the terminology is because I like movies that take place in the courtroom.

Note to self - next time you watch one of these, pay attention to the exact usage of words related to law.

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Legal terms Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:31 am  Legal terms
 

'That's English/life/children, etc. for you' is an expression of resignation that has the sense of 'That's how it is/you'll have to accept it as it is/there's nothing you can do about it'.

As for the legal terminology, you seem to know more than I do. According to the dictionary, a district attorney (abbreviation DA) is "a lawyer whose job is to represent the government in a particular area of the US".

Legal dictionaries should be of help to you:

http://www.lexscripta.com/legal/dictionaries/general.html
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Expression: He was a member of the medical profession Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:51 am  Expression: He was a member of the medical profession
 

Hi Conchita

Are the commonly used expression like 'Such is life' (or the well famous French original(?) phrase Smile) or 'Such is the world' are the exact equivalents (in meaning) to 'That’s life', etc?
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Expression: He was a member of the medical profession Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:51 am  Expression: He was a member of the medical profession
 

Hi Conchita,

Just for the record I'd like to say how spot on your explanations always are. Makes me feel quite 'umble.

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C'est la vie! Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:05 am  C'est la vie!
 

Tamara wrote:
Hi Conchita

Are the commonly used expression like 'Such is life' (or the well famous French original(?) phrase Smile) or 'Such is the world' are the exact equivalents (in meaning) to 'That’s life', etc?

While 'such is life' is another way of saying 'that's life', I wouldn't use 'such is the world' as an equivalent, unless I was referring to the earth or its people. I mean that, to me, life is an abstract concept and the world is a physical thing.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/10/messages/385.html
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Expression: He was a member of the medical profession Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:13 am  Expression: He was a member of the medical profession
 

Thanks, Conchita. Your explanations are perfect.
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Expression: He was a member of the medical profession Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:02 pm  Expression: He was a member of the medical profession
 

I would like to express my gratitude too, Conchita. I found the information I was looking for by following your link.
I should have googled it myself but... Embarassed C'est la vie.
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