Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it

Tamara · Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:43 am *Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it*

Hi

This wasn't the first time when I met the contraction e'en. (And also e'er)

thefreedictionary says that it is used

1 for evening Shocked

2 for even (as I saw it)

Could you give some comments about the contractions?
Where are they ( Smile

) come from and where are they acceptable to be used?
Just purely poetic?

this is e'en so - what does the phrase mean? 'It is true' or something else and more?
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Alan · Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:07 am *E'en/e're*

Hi Tamara,

My advice is don't use them, have nothing to do with them, shun them, ignore them, disregard them, send them to Coventry, cross over to the other side of the street when they appear and generally avoid them

They are contractions of even and ever and are used by lazy poets who just can't scan!

Your

Fan of Arabian horses · Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:18 am *E'en/e're*

Tamara · Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:25 am *Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it*

Hi Alan

Thanks a lot for your warning!

Tamara
P.S. I have nothing against eve for evening. Especialy New Year's Eve Smile

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Tom · Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:53 pm *Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it*

Alan wrote:

My advice is don't use them

In the light of the sentence quoted above, could you please tell me if the following sentences are correct?

1- My advice is use them.
2- My advice is follow him.
3- My instructions are release her.
4-My order is move out.

Regards

Tom

Pamela · Sat Oct 21, 2006 13:01 pm *Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it*

I like you sentences with 'to' before the verbs, Tom Wink

Yankee · Sat Oct 21, 2006 16:00 pm *Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it*

Hi Tom

Yes, you could say all of your sentences that way. Alan's sentence may work in that format a bit more easily/smoothly, though, because his sentence used the negative don't.

As Pamela mentioned, you can add the word "to" in all of your sentences.

1- My advice is to use them.

Amy
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Conchita · Sat Oct 21, 2006 19:41 pm *Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it*

Tamara · Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:05 am *Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it*

Yes, Conchita, but this is the Scots vocabulary

http://www.mudcat.org/scots/index.cfm?start_letter=E
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Yankee · Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:34 am *Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it*

Tamara · Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:40 am *Contraction e'en (e'er) if they asked for it*

?
Isn't Hallowe'en of the Scottish origin?

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