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Sat Oct 21, 2006 22:57 pm 'I have got a toothache' vs 'I have got toothache' |
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Hi Tom
Using "a" ins those sentences would be standard in AmE.
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Sun Oct 22, 2006 0:36 am Aches and pains |
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'I've got a headache/a tummyache' is standard British English, too. Now, toothache or backache often don't deserve an article (don't ask me why! ).
More on aches and pains:
Difference between semicolon and the word and http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic1691.html
Ache and pain http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic409.html |
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Conchita Language Coach
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:31 am 'canadian' English |
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I have a headache.
I got a headache after I drank the wine.
''I've got a headache.'' is also said, but ''I have got a headache." is rarely said.
I think "I have got a headache." is redundant. (You could say "I've got....." is redundant too but at least it's shorter, not so 'dragged out'.) |
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 14:42 pm 'I have got a toothache' vs 'I have got toothache' |
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Canadian, I’ve got a question for you: what is the difference between I’ve got and have got. Just a contraction and nothing more, I think. I believe we can use either of the forms in Tom’s examples: have and have got. Have got is simply informal. Give me the reasons for stating this:
| Quote: | | .“'I've got a headache.'' is also said, but ''I have got a headache." is rarely said |
Maybe, I’m not fully aware of have got and ‘ve got.
P.S. I know when to use have and have got in the sentences.  |
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 15:05 pm 'I have got a toothache' vs 'I have got toothache' |
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Hi Pamela
I think I can answer your question.
The point is that no native speaker in their right mind would ever say "I have got a headache." It would always be contracted to "I've got a headache." in spoken English. Or you would simply use have: "I have a headache." . In fact, in very informal, colloquial American English, 'have got' (with the same meaning as 'have') ends up "contracted" so much that the word 'have sometimes ends up being omitted completely: "I got a headache." = "I have a headache."
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 16:27 pm 'Gotta' do a 'hol' 'lotta' practice |
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And 'I got a headache' often contracts to 'gotta headache'!
'Wanna' practice with a song?
You Gotta Be by Des'Ree
Listen as your day unfolds Challenge what the future holds Try and keep your head up to the sky Lovers, they may cause you tears Go ahead release your fears Stand up and be counted Don't be ashamed to cry
You gotta be You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold You gotta be wiser, you gotta be hard You gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm You gotta stay together All I know, all I know, love will save the day
Herald what your mother said Read the books your father read Try to solve the puzzles in your own sweet time Some may have more cash than you Others take a different view My oh my, hey hey
You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold You gotta be wiser, you gotta be hard You gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm You gotta stay together All I know, all I know, love will save the day
Don't ask no questions, it goes on without you Leaving you behind if you can't stand the pace The world keeps on spinning You can't stop it, if you try to This time it's danger staring you in the face Oh oh
Remember
Listen as your day unfolds Challenge what the future holds Try and keep your head up to the sky Lovers, they may cause you tears Go ahead release your fears
My oh my, hey hey
You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold You gotta be wiser, you gotta be hard You gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm You gotta stay together All I know, all I know, love will save the day Yeah yeah yeah
You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold You gotta be wiser, you gotta be hard You gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm You gotta stay together All I know, all I know, love will save the day Yeah yeah
Got to be bold Got to be bad Got to be wise No one ever said
Got to be hard Not too too hard All I know is I never saved the day
You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold You gotta be wiser, you gotta be hard You gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm You gotta stay together All I know, all I know, love will save the day
You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold You gotta be wiser, you gotta be hard You gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm You gotta stay together
'Gotta' go now! |
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 20:29 pm 'I have got a toothache' vs 'I have got toothache' |
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Hi Conchita
I'm almost afraid to mention this (for fear of really scaring English learners), but in your song "gotta" is the shortened spoken form of "have got to" -- which basically means "must".
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 20:45 pm 'I have got a toothache' vs 'I have got toothache' |
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Or "have to to do smth"  |
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Pamela I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 20:47 pm 'I have got a toothache' vs 'I have got toothache' |
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Hi,
You gotta be joking - you must be joking.
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