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#2 (permalink) Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:47 am Expressions 'only just' and 'only not' |
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Hi Tamara
Here's my input:
1. Bill: John managed to swim the Channel. Bob: Yeah, but only just. (i.e., he almost didn't manage it.)
Bill: John managed to swim the Channel. Bob: Yeah, but only once. He had to be pulled out of the water halfway across during his other three attempts.
2. I'm only not divorced because I was never married. = The only reason I'm not divorced because I was never married.
Amy _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#3 (permalink) Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:52 am Expressions 'only just' and 'only not' |
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Hi Amy Thanks for the response. The difference (in 1) is getting clearer :)
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| The only reason I'm not divorced (IS?) because I was never married. |
Can I then reword it 'I'm not divorced just only because I was never get married.' ? _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#4 (permalink) Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:43 am Expressions 'only just' and 'only not' |
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Hi Amy
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| The only reason I'm not divorced (IS?) because I was never married. |
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Hi Tamara So sorry. Yes, "is" should be there. I guess in my cut-and-paste haste, I ended up leaving it out.
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Can I then reword it 'I'm not divorced just only because I was never get married.' ? |
No. In fact, I'm having trouble thinking of any example where "just only" would work without sounding like a completely unnecessary and unnatural redundancy.
For example, you could say: I have only one PC. -or- I have just one PC.
BUT NOT: I have just only one PC.
When you combine those two words the other way around (only just), "only" has the sense of "simply" or "merely" and "just" has a sense of "by a narrow margin" (in other words, a sort of closeness to something):
He's only just come. => The word just indicates a "closeness" to now.
He only just managed to swim the Channel. => The word just indicates a closeness to failure (i.e., he didn't manage it easily).
Does that help?
Amy _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#5 (permalink) Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:08 am Expressions 'only just' and 'only not' |
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| In fact, I'm having trouble thinking of any example where "just only" would work without sounding like a completely unnecessary and unnatural redundancy. |
The same to me... :)
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| …and it's just only because of the climate.. |
(bnc)
Some other examples are:
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You just only a piece of little metal. ( :) ) Only just really and I never liked just only just. :shock: :) |
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"only" has the sense of "simply" or "merely" and "just" has a sense of "by a narrow margin" (in other words, a sort of closeness to something):
Does that help? |
Yesss! :) Thanks! _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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| Presume vs Assume | "Pad it out" VERSUS "Plump it out" |