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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?


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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #16 (permalink) Sat Apr 04, 2009 18:27 pm   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

thanks to Torsten and Alan , your explanations were very helpfull !! ^^
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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #17 (permalink) Mon Jun 01, 2009 19:49 pm   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

Hi Alan,
But when I say ''The British change ...'', don't I emphasize the word '' British'' in contrast to other nationalities? Please, I need some more explanation.
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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #18 (permalink) Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:24 pm   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #19 (permalink) Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:14 am   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

I still don't understand how to find out wich nationalities act as adjective and noun and another one not. Why can't I say: "The italians are friendly people." instead "Italians are friendly people." How I reconize when ins necessary the definitive article or not. Example: British can be adjective like in "British food" and can be noun "Britishes are different than brazilians." ? I am very confused!!!!
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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #20 (permalink) Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:25 am   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

Hi Livia,

I can only repeat what I said in another post:


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'British' 'French' 'Spanish' and others are essentially adjectives and can't really stand alone without the article and so we have to say: The French/British and so on because it's understood that we are talking about 'The French people' for example. Other words act as adjective and noun as for example 'Italian' 'Greek' 'American' 'African' 'Asian' - these words can be used without the article: Americans choose a new president every four years but The British change their leader every five years.

Back to your question about Romans, which is slightly different because 'Romans' describes the citizens of Rome when used without the article. When we say 'The Romans' we are usually referring to a period of time during the Roman Empire when they ruled a large proportion of the so-called civilized world.


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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #21 (permalink) Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:43 am   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

Hi Alan,
I am new here and I am brazilian. I think you are the best teacher in the course. So, don't take me wrong but, you meam I just need to record from a list wich nationalities need the definitive article and wich ones don't need? Is there any clue to help me to memorize it?
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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #22 (permalink) Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:42 am   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

Hi Livia,

I'm afraid there isn't an easy answer to this. You have to find out whether the name of the nationality can be used as both adjective and noun or whether it's only used as adjective.

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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #23 (permalink) Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:03 am   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

Thank you for your patience.... :roll:
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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #24 (permalink) Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:11 am   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

Alan wrote:
Hi Joana,

Yes, you can if you want to stress the word 'Americans' in particular.

Alan


so then, you cannot go wrong if you always use "the <nationality>" all the time?
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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #25 (permalink) Tue Nov 17, 2009 15:42 pm   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

hi torsten
i just finished how to use the articles exercise
i scored 9 out 10
i used Romans instead of the Romans
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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #26 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 15:07 pm   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

Hello!

Can you tell me what does it mean "essentially ajectives", please?

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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #27 (permalink) Thu Apr 29, 2010 16:09 pm   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

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Hi Dina,

I imagine that you are referring to something I wrote some time ago - 'essentially adjectives'. By that I mean that the examples I gave were in the first place adjectives and have then become nouns when we add the definite article as in: British, French, Spanish.

Hope that helps.

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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #28 (permalink) Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:06 am   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

Hi, Alan

So the answer is in the origin of the words, isn`t it?
In the dictionary I found the first meaning of the word Russian is a noun, so we should use it without the article, the definite article helps us to form a noun.
I`ve read statements about Russians, paying attention to the usage of article and found out that I`m right:

ex. British people said they thought of Russians as poor (24%), hardworking (11%) and warm and friendly (10%). (BBC News)

Thank you for explanation, Alan

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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #29 (permalink) Tue Jun 22, 2010 23:49 pm   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

dear torsten
How to distinguish between 'a' and 'the'?
I scord 4 -10
please help me

.thank you
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Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"? #30 (permalink) Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:52 pm   Why do we say "the Romans" as opposed to "Romans"?
 

I can't get you Alan. you say '' french, british are adjectives but american and Italian are not"?
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