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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 18:00 pm  Mighty man :)
 

Hi

He is a mighty man.

(Sorry for the stupid question...)
Could you say, what is (to you) the first sense of the expression? (When it is used actually seriously, with full respect Smile and not to compare a person with a comical superman Smile).

He is… Strong physically? Brave? Powerful (influential)? …?
Or it depends mainly on the context and has to be specified clearly like this:

now he was a mighty man of wealth (bnc)
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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 18:09 pm  Mighty man :)
 

To me, it sounds like it`s about him being physically strong(vice versa?). But that is just me. :O
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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 18:38 pm  Mighty man :)
 

Hi Tamara

Yes, I'd say the precise meaning would depend on the context.

Do you know the expression "high and mighty"?
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I suspect you're more likely to hear a person described as "high and mighty" than simply "mighty". Cool
(Unless you're referring to a comic book Superhero, that is.)Wink

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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 18:40 pm  Mighty man :)
 

SkiIucK wrote:
being physically strong(vice versa?)

Hi SkiIucK

Thanks for your response, I've taken your vote. Smile Physically strong, OK.

Tamara

P.S. Sorry for my dullness, but what did you mean here by 'vise versa'? Smile
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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 18:46 pm  Mighty man :)
 

As far as I`ve heard, vice versa is the opposite. For example, physically strong and strong physically.
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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 18:46 pm  Mighty man :)
 

Hi Tamara

I think SkiIuck was just questioning the word order.

Hi SkiIuck

In this case, you can say it either way: physically strong or strong physically

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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 18:49 pm  Mighty man :)
 

Sorry for double posting but I have one more question... What does "i.e." stand for? And besides "et cetera", are there any other valuable abbreviations that I should learn? Share them with me if such are present...Smile thx.
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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 18:50 pm  Mighty man :)
 

(not going to a dictionary) Amy, to me high and mighty means 'arrogant' or something like that.

No, I meant just 'mighty man'.
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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 19:02 pm  Mighty man :)
 

Yankee wrote:
Yes, I'd say the precise meaning would depend on the context.

Google gives a mighty man of valour...

Yes, Amy, now it seems you're right, and in my case I had just lost a context...
As it happens to me quite often... Sad

Thanks, anyway.
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Mighty Tue Oct 24, 2006 19:03 pm  Mighty
 

Hi Tamara,

Mighty to me has touches of Biblical English suggesting all powerful. When used with another adjective it can mean very or extremely as in: That's mighty kind of you.

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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 19:08 pm  Mighty man :)
 

Hi Tamara

Yes, "arrogant" is the meaning of "high and mighty". But, my point was that I think you're more likely to hear a person described as "high and mighty" (arrogant) and less likely to hear a person described as "mighty" (strong, powerful) -- except for superheros and, as Alan has now pointed out, Biblical heros.

Mighty is used much more often as an adverb modifying an adjective. (Even in AmE. Laughing)

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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 19:16 pm  Mighty man :)
 

SkiIucK wrote:
Sorry for double posting but I have one more question... What does "i.e." stand for? And besides "et cetera", are there any other valuable abbreviations that I should learn? Share them with me if such are present...Smile thx.

The abbreviation i.e. comes from Latin (id est) and is used in English as a short way to say "in other words" or "that is".

We also use the abbreviation e.g., which also comes from Latin (exempli gratia) and is used in English as a short way to say "for example"

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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 19:38 pm  Mighty man :)
 

Hi,

I'm going to be a sneaky nasty knowall and say the plural of exemplum is exempla.

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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 20:32 pm  Mighty man :)
 

SkiIucK, just in case if youl find it useful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_abbreviations

Alan, can I ask you, whether you do use for examples (in plural), in sentences like:

For examples, [... you can consider A and B ] (for example Smile).

And if so, if the comma is necessary in the case.
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Mighty man :) Tue Oct 24, 2006 23:52 pm  Mighty man :)
 

In a word 'no'. I was merely being jolly smart**** by pointing out the Latin plural but in English we would say: for example and I'd bin the comma.

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