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#2 (permalink) Wed Oct 25, 2006 13:12 pm Common errors made by ESL speakers? |
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Hi Torsten!
xi xi xi I guess I know whose error "grammer" instead of " grammar" is ,yes, it's my own mistake, but now I know right one.Thanks Torsten,if you didn't correct my mistake then, I would do this mistake always.But now I remember your correction every time when I want to write GRAMMAR,thanks
P.S If you want to find more errors, you must read all my posts,you can find there a lot of mistakes and add to this list I guess I gave a topic for forum,great!  _________________ Either nothing is truth, or the truth is unknown to us... |
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Medeya2012 I'm here quite often ;-)
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#3 (permalink) Wed Oct 25, 2006 13:28 pm Common errors made by ESL speakers? |
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Hi medeya2012, as a matter of fact, there are many people who write grammer instead of grammar. You used to be one of them but from now on you will spell grammar correctly. What about do a mistake vs. make a mistake? You can read Alan's story about make and do to find the answer: Make or do? http://www.english-test.net/lessons/5/index.html
Let me know what you think. Regards, Torsten _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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Medeya2012 I'm here quite often ;-)
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#5 (permalink) Wed Oct 25, 2006 14:13 pm Common errors made by ESL speakers? |
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Hi Torsten
One of them I noticed while going through old posts is:
I was finding...(instead of looking for)
Tom
PS What are you finding in this cupboard? |
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#6 (permalink) Wed Oct 25, 2006 14:20 pm Common errors made by ESL speakers? |
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Hi Tom, do you mean that people often confuse find with look for? _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#8 (permalink) Wed Oct 25, 2006 14:45 pm Common errors made by ESL speakers? |
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HI Torsten
Yes, you're right,we don't have articles in my native language and it differs from the English language,so it's a little hard to pay attention to each grammar rule that we don't have.I know all grammar rules about articles and others,but when I must use them,I forget them.Even when I read my own post after posting it,I can point out my own mistakes ,but then I become sadder because I know grammar which I don't use when it must be used!
I have got some addition to your errors, too.
people use advise instead of advice
quite instead of quiet
expect and except
well instead of good _________________ Either nothing is truth, or the truth is unknown to us... |
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Medeya2012 I'm here quite often ;-)
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#9 (permalink) Wed Oct 25, 2006 14:57 pm How to learn English grammar |
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Hi medeya2012, the key to correct grammar is absorbing as much English as possible. Whenever you compose a sentence and you are not sure about a certain phrase, you simply need to read more until you have enough English sentences copied in your head. I know this is a life long process and even native speakers have to use their language constantly to improve their skills. So there is one important fact: When it comes to grammar you must keep a balance between learning rules and copying phrases and sentences. In most cases, ESL learners concentrate too much on learning grammar rules. The question is do you really need to know any grammar rules in order to speak and write in English correctly?
As for common ESL/English errors, I know there are quite a number of websites that contain such lists. What I'd like to do is create our own list. This means, our list will contain only those mistakes that are frequently made by the users of our forum.
Let me know what you think, Torsten _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#10 (permalink) Wed Oct 25, 2006 15:20 pm Common errors made by ESL speakers? |
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hmmm, I think if we don't know grammar rules then it will be quite difficult to create correct sentences,yes? But it doesn't mean that we must learn only grammar rules,I know we must read a lot of books and talk to native speakers to get more phrases and to keep in mind all prepositions.I think we must do these two important things together.I mean, we must read and listen to get new words and phrases and to learn grammar rules to make of those words good, correct sentences.Oh, I could never imagine that one day I would be a supporter of learning grammar rules,as I hate grammar lessons (I guess you could see this fact from my grammar)
Also. I have written this people use advise instead of advice
and this well instead of good from posts of forum members which I have seen and remembered. _________________ Either nothing is truth, or the truth is unknown to us... |
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#12 (permalink) Thu Oct 26, 2006 13:05 pm What means? |
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Another phrase that is frequently used by forum users is this:
What means .... ? instead of What does .... mean? _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#13 (permalink) Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:30 pm Common errors made by ESL speakers? |
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What means .... ? instead of What does .... mean? I often use "What does .... mean?" in class and I also use "What means" instead of it |
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#14 (permalink) Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:47 pm Common errors made by ESL speakers? |
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| A very common mistake, even for native speakers sometimes, is confusing "their" and "they are", "your" and "you are". Or at least that is what I have noticed. |
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#15 (permalink) Fri Oct 27, 2006 23:26 pm Common errors made by ESL speakers? |
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| SkiIucK wrote: |
| A very common mistake, even for native speakers sometimes, is confusing "their" and "they are", "your" and "you are". Or at least that is what I have noticed. |
Yeah, I can clearly remember a scene from the Friends series where Ross yells at Rachel: Oh-oh-oh, and by the way, Y-O-U-apostrophe-R-E means 'you are.' Y-O-U-R means 'your!' 
Anyway, it's funny that many people misspell 'misspelled' and mispronounce 'mispronunciation'.
http://www.yourdictionary.com/library/misspelled.html http://www.yourdictionary.com/library/mispron.html |
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