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#2 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:53 am Blah blah blah |
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Hi Alan,
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Are all these words called "insert words"? Are there more? And why do we use them? _________________ If you want to change the world, be one of the change. |
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#3 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:04 pm Horrendous |
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. It seems Britain may be just as plagued by jargon, buzzwords and "talking heads" as the US is.
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#4 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 15:55 pm English is changing - is that frightening? |
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Hi Yankee,
You said:
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The English language is obviously changing. Why do you consider a particular variety of English awful?
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#5 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:01 pm Blah blah blah |
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Hi Englishuser, I think Amy wasn't referring to 'a particular variety of English'. She just said that this type of empty talk is rather useless and I agree with her. _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#6 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:01 pm Blah blah blah |
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| Yankee wrote: |
| That is a pretty awful example of "English". |
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Hi
Can I ask, whether in modern English 'example'= 'variety'?
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#7 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:08 pm Blah blah blah |
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Hi Torsten,
I should have asked why Yankee thinks that a particular register (rather than variety) of English is rather awful. To use slang and informal English is surely all right - and even expected - in certain contexts.
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#8 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:10 pm Blah blah blah |
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Hi Tamara,
Without nitpicking I would suggest that 'example' is used here to indicate a particular illustration of this type of language.
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#9 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:14 pm Blah blah blah |
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To use slang and informal English is surely all right - and even expected - in certain contexts.
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Using/Use of slang is OK unless you're a Schools Minister. As David Miliband is.
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#10 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:15 pm Blah blah blah |
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| Englishuser wrote: |
Hi Torsten,
I should have asked why Yankee thinks that a particular register (rather than variety) of English is or seems to be considered rather awful. To use slang and informal English is surely all right - and even expected - in certain contexts.
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Hi Englishuser, if you were to sum up the text passage Alan has quoted, how would you do it? What are the key facts of that message? _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#11 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:36 pm Blah blah blah |
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Hi Rosalisa,
My comment: 'Well, yeah -right - ok - see what yer mean - ain't it?' was meant to be a bit of a joke and really to laugh at the way the text I quoted was said/written. Please don't take it as good practice.
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#12 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:44 pm Blah blah blah |
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Hi Tamara,
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Englishuser wrote: To use slang and informal English is surely all right - and even expected - in certain contexts.
Using/Use of slang is OK unless you're a Schools Minister. As David Miliband is. |
Are you correcting me?
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#13 (permalink) Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:57 pm Blah blah blah |
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No. I have no intention of correcting your English. I just wasn't sure whether to-infinitive could be used that way. At least, in English I'm trying to learn. _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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