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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:54 am  Blah blah blah
 

Hi,

Thought you might be interested in this piece of 'English' and I use the word loosely - from the person in the UK government who is responsible for education in schools -believe it or not!

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Sorry, my diary's fully scoped right now.

The time is right to embed honest, hard-edged self-valuation across the system - which needs to be data-rich and workload light.

Well, yeah -right - ok - see what yer mean - ain't it?

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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:53 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Hi Alan,

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Well, yeah -right - ok - see what yer mean - ain't it?

Are all these words called "insert words"? Are there more? And why do we use them?
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Horrendous Tue Nov 14, 2006 13:04 pm  Horrendous
 

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It seems Britain may be just as plagued by jargon, buzzwords and "talking heads" as the US is.

That is a pretty awful example of "English". And the source makes it all the more frightening. Shocked
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English is changing - is that frightening? Tue Nov 14, 2006 16:55 pm  English is changing - is that frightening?
 

Hi Yankee,

You said:

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That is a pretty awful example of "English". And the source makes it all the more frightening.

The English language is obviously changing. Why do you consider a particular variety of English awful?

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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 17:01 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Hi Englishuser, I think Amy wasn't referring to 'a particular variety of English'. She just said that this type of empty talk is rather useless and I agree with her.
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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 17:01 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Yankee wrote:
That is a pretty awful example of "English".

Englishuser wrote:
The English language is obviously changing. Why do you consider a particular variety of English awful?

Hi

Can I ask, whether in modern English 'example'= 'variety'?

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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 17:08 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Hi Torsten,

I should have asked why Yankee thinks that a particular register (rather than variety) of English is rather awful. To use slang and informal English is surely all right - and even expected - in certain contexts.

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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 17:10 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Hi Tamara,

Without nitpicking I would suggest that 'example' is used here to indicate a particular illustration of this type of language.

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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 17:14 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Englishuser wrote:
To use slang and informal English is surely all right - and even expected - in certain contexts.

Using/Use of slang is OK unless you're a Schools Minister. As David Miliband is.

Thanks, Alan.
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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 17:15 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Englishuser wrote:
Hi Torsten,

I should have asked why Yankee thinks that a particular register (rather than variety) of English is or seems to be considered rather awful. To use slang and informal English is surely all right - and even expected - in certain contexts.

Englishuser

Hi Englishuser, if you were to sum up the text passage Alan has quoted, how would you do it? What are the key facts of that message?
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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 17:36 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Hi Rosalisa,

My comment: 'Well, yeah -right - ok - see what yer mean - ain't it?' was meant to be a bit of a joke and really to laugh at the way the text I quoted was said/written. Please don't take it as good practice.

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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 17:44 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Hi Tamara,

You wrote:

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Englishuser wrote:
To use slang and informal English is surely all right - and even expected - in certain contexts.


Using/Use of slang is OK unless you're a Schools Minister. As David Miliband is.

Are you correcting me?

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Blah blah blah Tue Nov 14, 2006 17:57 pm  Blah blah blah
 

Englishuser wrote:
Are you correcting me?

No.
I have no intention of correcting your English.
I just wasn't sure whether to-infinitive could be used that way.
At least, in English I'm trying to learn.
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