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Wed Nov 15, 2006 13:46 pm Use of 'Old school tie' |
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Hi,
The old school tie is often used to explain the fraternity existing in later life between people who have been to the same school. If you wanted to explain why X got the job and Y didn't, you could say: It's a case of the old school tie.
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Alan Co-founder

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Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:11 am Use of 'Old school tie' |
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Tom... (and Alan). I don't see that phrase as an idiom (not like 'Old Boy' or 'Old Boy-Net' which are related and connected to your replies).
The idea of an 'old-boy net' refers to the network of ex-students from the English publich school system. English schools used uniforms, including ties in specific colours, as did army regiments.... but the tie was only ever a symbol of the institution itself... not the subsequent networks of members that resulted.
I would say that the term 'School Ties', although having a vague conection to what I mention above, refers not to the item of apparel, but to the social contacts that would result from any shool setting. |
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Pond969 You can meet me at english-test.net
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Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:03 am Use of 'Old school tie' |
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Well yes that's what I said, didn't I?
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Alan Co-founder

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Sat Nov 18, 2006 18:44 pm Use of 'Old school tie' |
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now if we add a well-placed hyphen...
we have an old-school tie.
... an example of which would be a tie from, oh, the 1970s (you know, the really wide ties). _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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prezbucky I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:33 am Use of 'Old school tie' |
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Alan... I am not actually disagreeing with you, and, yes, that is pretty much what you said.
My point was that 'old-boy net' has idiomatic status while 'old-school tie', while understandable as a similar term', is not commonly used to the same degree. |
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Pond969 You can meet me at english-test.net
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Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:59 am Use of 'Old school tie' |
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Hi,
Well clearly that depends on your perception of its use. My feeling is that the expression ( I don't quite follow your use of 'term') can be used a a sort of shorthand for 'special relationship' or 'special contacts' as in: Well you know why he got the job. It was a case of the old school tie again.'
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Alan Co-founder

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Wed Nov 22, 2006 0:04 am Use of 'Old school tie' |
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| Alan ... I acknowledge that the term (and by 'term' I mean 'a word or group of words understood to have a particular meaning') may be used more commonly in my part of the world. I haven't come across it in the way you have cited though. |
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