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Use of 'Old school tie' #1 (permalink) Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:56 am   Use of 'Old school tie'
 

Hi

Could you please tell me (the meaning) and use of the following idiom? I know the meaning but cannot use it in a sentence! Shocked

1- Old school tie

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Use of 'Old school tie' #2 (permalink) Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:46 pm   Use of 'Old school tie'
 

Hi,

The old school tie is often used to explain the fraternity existing in later life between people who have been to the same school. If you wanted to explain why X got the job and Y didn't, you could say: It's a case of the old school tie.

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Use of 'Old school tie' #3 (permalink) Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:11 am   Use of 'Old school tie'
 

Tom... (and Alan). I don't see that phrase as an idiom (not like 'Old Boy' or 'Old Boy-Net' which are related and connected to your replies).

The idea of an 'old-boy net' refers to the network of ex-students from the English publich school system. English schools used uniforms, including ties in specific colours, as did army regiments.... but the tie was only ever a symbol of the institution itself... not the subsequent networks of members that resulted.

I would say that the term 'School Ties', although having a vague conection to what I mention above, refers not to the item of apparel, but to the social contacts that would result from any shool setting.
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Use of 'Old school tie' #4 (permalink) Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:03 am   Use of 'Old school tie'
 

Well yes that's what I said, didn't I?

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Use of 'Old school tie' #5 (permalink) Sat Nov 18, 2006 17:44 pm   Use of 'Old school tie'
 

now if we add a well-placed hyphen...

we have an old-school tie.

... an example of which would be a tie from, oh, the 1970s (you know, the really wide ties).
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Use of 'Old school tie' #6 (permalink) Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:33 am   Use of 'Old school tie'
 

Alan... I am not actually disagreeing with you, and, yes, that is pretty much what you said.

My point was that 'old-boy net' has idiomatic status while 'old-school tie', while understandable as a similar term', is not commonly used to the same degree.
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Use of 'Old school tie' #7 (permalink) Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:59 am   Use of 'Old school tie'
 

Hi,

Well clearly that depends on your perception of its use. My feeling is that the expression ( I don't quite follow your use of 'term') can be used a a sort of shorthand for 'special relationship' or 'special contacts' as in: Well you know why he got the job. It was a case of the old school tie again.'

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Use of 'Old school tie' #8 (permalink) Tue Nov 21, 2006 23:04 pm   Use of 'Old school tie'
 

Alan ... I acknowledge that the term (and by 'term' I mean 'a word or group of words understood to have a particular meaning') may be used more commonly in my part of the world. I haven't come across it in the way you have cited though.
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