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#17 (permalink) Mon Nov 20, 2006 17:49 pm I want to talk about my country Georgia and show some pictures |
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Hi CHE, not only me, but all Azerbaijanians! I guess you know why.. _________________ Either nothing is truth, or the truth is unknown to us... |
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#18 (permalink) Mon Nov 20, 2006 20:36 pm I want to talk about my country Georgia and show some pictures |
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| medeya2012 wrote: |
| Hi CHE, not only me, but all Azerbaijanians! I guess you know why.. |
I guess ,I know I'm just interested ,has it began in Karabax,or before?
Anyway,I think it's not right to hape people because of their national identity.. There are not bad nations,only bad people(I think so)
Even I don't hate Russians,in defiance of everything.... _________________ Bombing for peace is like f.. for virginity |
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#19 (permalink) Fri Dec 01, 2006 22:01 pm To "like" armenians? |
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Hi Che Gevara, and sorry for such a late response.
I know Che, I know that we mustn't hate nations for their governments' decisions,I think most nations don't think as their gov't. But in this situation everything is different. Azerbaijan was always the place for wars, between Iran/Russia, Turkey/Russia and parts my country was occupied by big countries Russia,Iran,Turkey centures ago.It means I must hate all these nations No, of course. Another example, Hitler also wanted to take control over Baku and oil, he had big plans for it. I don't hate all Germans, I like and respect them. When one country wants to occupy the other's land, it's clear they will fight, the both sides wil be informed that there will be a war, and people take measures.In wars between that countries we knew we fight, either we'll win or lose, but Armenians like robbers in 1905, 1918 in March used opportunity given by "Red Army" -Russians for to put down the rising. But what did Armenians do?They murdered a lot of Azeries that even weren't rebellions, they didn't know about the coming of Armenians.That Azeries were just poor villagers, they weren't provided with arms,while Armenians were provided with weapons by Russian Empire.But that Azeries did guess Armenians as their true brothers.We forgot these incidents.We did forgive them,and again treat Armenians as brothers,but they again began to make plans to hurt us.How can I like the nation which each member hate my nation,want to harm my nation, steal my music, my traditions and and finally my land that was always my nation's land?Also, I can't like liar nation! I may seem to you rude,self satisfied, even nasist???? No matter, but nobody can change my mind, this is my own opinion and I guess I think right. _________________ Either nothing is truth, or the truth is unknown to us... |
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#20 (permalink) Sun Dec 03, 2006 17:30 pm To "like" armenians? |
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Hi medeya2012!
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| Also, I can't like liar nation! |
do you think it is justified to label people depending on their nations?
Are not there people in your country that are much worse than the liars you were talking about? Or don't you know about Armenians who sincerely tried to make friends with Azerbaijaneans?
With such attitude one may claim that Oscar Shiendler was a bustard and deserved execution... _________________ my game is fair play |
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#21 (permalink) Sun Dec 03, 2006 19:42 pm I want to talk about my country Georgia and show some pictures |
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hi medeya2012 Thanks for you respons.. Most thingsyou've said ,looks familiar to me ,(like war between Russia and Turkey,because of Controling Georgia ,stealing Georgian traditions ,music and culture,by Amenians and so on... but anyway,there can't be bed nations,only bed people... _________________ Bombing for peace is like f.. for virginity |
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#22 (permalink) Thu Dec 21, 2006 15:57 pm I want to talk about my country Georgia and show some pictures |
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Hi everyone!
I can't change someone's thoughts and actions about this situation,I'm just a girl,but what I wanted to explain was the reason why I think Armenians are liars and what they did, evil.. But I see as always no other nations don't want to believe Azerbaijanians,okay if you don't believe me, I can give some foreign diplomats' attidude about Armenians.
Also, I don't hate people for their nationality, but I do think Armenians are the same.As for Azeries we also as every nation have bad people, but we don't claim that the neighbour's land is ours, or music, historical buildings, art, food everything..we are not liars! I've already exhausted to see and hear how Armenias steal another thing belonging us,they're just in habit of doing such things. AEREAL I DON'T KNOW YOUR NATIONALITY, IT DOESN'T MATTER LET'S DISCUSS THIS PROBLEM IF
YOU'RE SO INTERESTED IN THIS.
Who are Armenians? Why to spend so much money to Armenians?
Armenians attacked future American President Hubert Hoover while he headed US efforts to help rebuild Europe at the end of World War I. Professor Hovannisian reports that Mr. Hoover stated that Armenian corruption, "if made public, would become the greatest scandal in American charitable history."
Nasib Bek Usubbekov, an Azerbaijani public official said of the Armenia sneak, cowardly, surprise and unprovoked attack of 1919 that Armenians were "shedding the blood of innocent victims and leaving thousands of widows and orphans."
France's Prime Minister Clemenceau stated that "the Armenians were a dangerous people to get mixed up with; particularly as they required a great deal of money and gave very little satisfaction."
Philippe Berthelot, secretary of the French peace delegation stated in 1919: "the great difficulty in establishing Armenia is that the Armenians practically nowhere constitute a majority." Yet the Armenians begged, whined, mooched and attacked anyone who refused to give them someone else's land. That is what Armenians did in 1919. John Oliver Wardrop, British Chief Commissioner in Trans-Caucasia stated there was evidence that regular Armenian Army units had attacked many unarmed Muslim villages. He also stated that the Armenians were responsible for most acts of aggression.
American Army Colonel William Haskell was sent to Armenia as the High Commissioner for Relief. He resigned his position in disgust in 1920. He concluded that the Armenians were "ungrateful, professional beggars." He went on to add of the Armenians that "they are thieves and liars, utterly debased incapable of helping themselves, unwilling to help each other and entirely lacking in gratitude." The Armenian response was to call him a crook as you have said of me. The Armenians made up one of their famous tall tales and accused this United States Army officer of stealing from the relief efforts. Of course there was no proof offered!
Lord Hardinge, the British Undersecretary of State, wrote of Colonel Haskell's report: "Knowing the Armenian character I am not the least surprised by this account." Even the Russians, close friends of the Armenians, objected to their state sponsored terror directed toward Muslims: The Russian People's Commissar sent a formal protest to the Armenians stating that the Armenian armed forces, after plundering Zangibasar and expelled its Muslim inhabitants, have begun to attack the Sharur-Nakhikevan district.
US Senator Reed from Missouri objected on the floor of the Senate and stated his objections to America giving 3/4s of a billion dollars and sending 70,000 American troops to give Armenians the Muslim lands from sea to sea that the Armenians craved. He said, "A more monstrous proposition was never put before the American people." Had Armenia had it's way with the United States Senate they would have dragged America into the first Vietnam of the 20th century! President Wilson did all in his power to help Armenia and what were his thanks-A Sam Weems style character attack upon the President of the United States! Countless numbers of Christians and churches raised $50 million dollars to help Armenia after World War I. What was the Armenian response? A Sam Weems type of character attack claiming that the Americans had not done enough to help Armenia!
British Naval Commander Harry Lake stated that the Armenians betrayed Great Britain by joining the Bolshevik Revolution and this was "an act of treachery" after the Armenians had begged hundreds of thousands of dollars of military aid from his country. Dwight Osborne and Randal MacDonnell of the British Foreign Office wrote many reports that "brimmed with sarcasm about the cowardliness, unworthiness, and pretentiousness of the Armenians who continued to clamor about the right to Turkish Armenian provinces at a time when, despite having been armed by the British, they were unable to hold on to the Russian Armenian districts that constituted the existing state." And just how did the Armenians run their "existing tiny state" that they had whined, begged and mooched to get? They printed worthless paper money that wasn't backed by anything! The Armenian people paid a terrible price for this action by their dictator leaders. The Armenian Assembly of America's personal attack on me is nothing more than a continuation of this long and unbroken string of character attacks. Shame on you! _________________ Either nothing is truth, or the truth is unknown to us... |
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#23 (permalink) Thu Dec 21, 2006 16:54 pm I want to talk about my country Georgia and show some pictures |
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Hi medeya2012,
If you copy-pasted the last 8 paragraphs from some other source - it is ok, but if you have written it yourself now, then i think you have misunderstood something. Or your anger blinds you and you see an enemy (even) in me without any reasons:
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the Armenian response was to call him a crook as you have said of me
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have I?
Anyway, now I see your point, maybe you are right somewhere... however, still I can't agree with "hating a nation" and i'm not going to prove it, or argue with someone.
if you have some spare time, may i ask you how do you see their relations in future? say, after 20 years?
P.S. about my nation - i'm neither of the two. _________________ my game is fair play |
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#24 (permalink) Thu Dec 21, 2006 19:24 pm I want to talk about my country Georgia and show some pictures |
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Hi, I've copied that information.hmm "hating a nation" as you call it doesn't depend on me, you can imagine what did they do for raising such hatred on me...I hate them because they made me hate one nation, I'm not so cruel person,I'm a human being and understand everything clearly.
You said if Armenians want to be friends of us??? No, I don't think so, if they really wanted to be our friends, they could do that when we called them 'brothers'..now this seems just like a funny joke for me.
As Azeri/Armenian relations, now they hold talks about the conflict and I hope the result will appear soon:) For the future,hmmm.. as always maybe now again Azerbaijanians will forgive them,I don't know..time will show..
May I ask your nationality? I'm so curious person  _________________ Either nothing is truth, or the truth is unknown to us... |
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#26 (permalink) Sun May 27, 2007 11:00 am I want to talk about my country Georgia and show some pictures |
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REALLY COOL! _________________ If you want to change the world, be one of the change. |
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#27 (permalink) Sun May 27, 2007 20:33 pm I want to talk about my country Georgia and show some pictures |
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Rosalisa Glad you like it  I will upload pictures of my Winter journey later... _________________ Bombing for peace is like f.. for virginity |
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