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#2 (permalink) Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:35 am Meaning of "reference to" |
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#3 (permalink) Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:07 am Reference |
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Hi Apo,
The word reference is a noun and the verb form is refer. In your sentence references suggests remarks about, comments about. If you used that as a verb , you would say:If you made remarks about/commented on/ talked about/wrote about legs ...
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#4 (permalink) Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:44 am Meaning of "reference to" |
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Hi
Can reference in this context be (also, in addition to 'explicit mentioning') considered as an equivalent for 'hinting at' (i.e., not direct 'talking', not 'open' comments or remarks about)?
(Just from the fact that 'references' can be direct, and/or indirect.) _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#5 (permalink) Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:57 am Meaning of "reference to" |
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Morning Tamara,
I think reference is probably more explicit than you are suggesting. In other words if you refer to something/somebody, you mention the name of the person or thing. Possibly the word that might give this sense of indirectness is 'inference', which is something you deduce from what has been said. A sentence beginning: 'The inference from what you have said is that you believe him to be a liar' means that the speaker is deducing from what you are saying and suggesting that you are not actually saying he is a liar. 'Reference' after all is used in business letters when you are referring say to another letter as in: 'With reference to your letter of ...' and of course it appears in abbreviation at the top of a letter as: Ref:
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#6 (permalink) Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:11 am Meaning of "reference to" |
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Morning Alan,
OK. Thanks.
By the way (sorry for the Sunday-morning frivolity :)), in my first language it would be some other words, a bit less 'anatomic' and a bit more flippant than just 'legs' and 'ankles'. _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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Tamara I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#7 (permalink) Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:21 am Meaning of "reference to" |
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| Tamara wrote: |
| By the way (sorry for the Sunday-morning frivolity :)), in my first language it would be some other words, a bit less 'anatomic' and a bit more flippant than just 'legs' and 'ankles'. |
Hi Tamara Don't forget that apo's sentence talks about the 19th century. ;)
By the way, I agree that 'a reference to something' would be 'a direct mentioning of something' -- unless you add a qualification. For example, "an indirect reference to". :D
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#8 (permalink) Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:41 am Meaning of "reference to" |
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| In the sentence you quote 'references to' is equivalent to 'mentions of'. The writer means that any written or spoken reference to legs could cause offence. |
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