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Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...'



 
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Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...' #1 (permalink) Wed Nov 22, 2006 21:04 pm   Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...'
 

Alan wrote:
I like it! I'd had fond ideas of talking zeugma but then that, as they say, is another kettle of fish.


Could you please explain to me the above sentence? What's the word in red?

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Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...' #2 (permalink) Wed Nov 22, 2006 23:57 pm   Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...'
 

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Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...' #3 (permalink) Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:49 am   Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...'
 

Thanks, Amy

I have seen that now...but let's say that I am one of your weak students. :( Please see below:

Zeugma: noun: use of a word to govern two or more words though appropriate to only one
(Example: "`Mr. Pickwick took his hat and his leave' is an example of zeugma")

So take is the word here? But the sentence under discussion between Alan and Mr. Micawber did not allow me to notice Zeugma there.

Quote:
She came crying.


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Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...' #4 (permalink) Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:02 am   Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...'
 

Hi Tom

Take a look at this:
http://www.answers.com/topic/kettle-of-fish

How about posting the link? Who wrote "She came crying." and what was topic of the whole conversation (thread)?

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Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...' #5 (permalink) Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:23 am   Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...'
 

Many, many thanks, Amy.

Here's the link:

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http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic6102.html

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Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...' #6 (permalink) Thu Nov 23, 2006 13:48 pm   Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...'
 

Hi Tom

Thanks for the link. The discussion centered on the use of two different verb forms in one sentence (with only one subject) and what the participle actually is/does in the sentence. I had a quick look through the original thread and I didn't notice any examples of zeugma. I also couldn't find "She came crying" anywhere. Was that your sentence? :?

Alan stated that zeugma is a different topic ('another kettle of fish') but apparently some of the elements of the discussion brought zeugma to mind and he would have enjoyed a discussion of that, too.

Alan, my apologies if I've interpreted the quote incorrectly.

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Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...' #7 (permalink) Thu Nov 23, 2006 21:13 pm   Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...'
 

Sorry, Amy, the original sentence was:

Quote:
"She entered her room crying."


I took some liberty and only changed the verb. :D Do you think it would make any difference?

1- She came crying.
2-She entered her room crying.


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Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...' #8 (permalink) Fri Nov 24, 2006 0:55 am   Expression: 'I like it! I'd had...'
 

Tom wrote:
Do you think it would make any difference?
Yes.
The liberty-taking and verb-changing resulted in two sentences that don't say the same thing. :?
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In both sentences, however, 'she' basically did two different things at the same time:
She was crying when she came.
She was crying when she entered her room.

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