Participle clause with own subject

[Tamara]

Hi

Sometimes it's a bit difficult to me to distinguish (in English) 'normal' Participle-clauses-with-own-subject
from cases of 'Walking down the street, his hat blew off.'

Could you validate the next two sentences:

The weather being fine, they went for a walk.

The sun having risen, he continued his way.
?

Are they OK?

PS
Additional question:
it is possible to use the Subjunctive form in the first sentence: 'The weather be fine....'

and what could be the second part in this case?
_________________
It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water…

[Alan]

Hi Tamara,

Your two sentences don't work I'm afraid:

The weather being fine, they went for a walk.

The sun having risen, he continued his way.

In both sentences you have two participle constructions hanging in the air without a subject to hang on to. The only two subjects 'they' and 'he' that are available don't fit.

You would have to say:

As the weather was fine, they ....

After the sun had risen, he ....

On the other point you could say:

If the weather were fine, we could (would be able to) go for a walk.

Should the weather be fine, we could (would be able to) go for a walk.

A
_________________
English as a Second Language
You can read my ESL story 'the' vs. 'a/an'

[Tamara]

Hi Alan,

Thanks a lot, indeed!

…It’s not my sentences.
Both are taken from a 'dictionary'… They are given as two examples of the Participle clause and put me in great doubts, whether I know at all what the case is about.

Your corrections sound to me absolutely fine.

P.S. Pamela, could you give me a favour and check up both sentences in your home version of ABBYY Lingvo?

Participle clause article, the 3b subsection. In the very end of the article.
_________________
It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water…

[Alan]

Hi Tamara,

Just seen my typo - it should read 'hanging' in the air.

A
_________________
English as a Foreign Language
You can read my EFL story Guy Fawkes Night for You

[Snezana]

Hello!

Could you help me with my dilemma?
I have a question regarding Participle clauses, too.
Which of the two negative forms is correct:

Being not hungry, she refused his invitation to have dinner in the restaurant.
OR
Not being hungry, she refused his invitation to have dinner in the restaurant.

Where should we put NOT?! Is it fixed rule, or it can vary depending on the individual usage - depending on verb used, passive or active voice, adjective etc.?

Thank you!

Snezana
_________________
Seize the day!

[Alan]

Hi,

Yes you're right - it does depend on the sentence and how it is used. Basically you want to keep the negative 'not' as close to the word it qualifies, preferably before it. That is why it is better to write: Not being hungry' 'Be' and 'hungry' are interdependent and cannot really be separated in your sentence.

A
_________________
English as a Second Language
You can read my ESL story A New Season

[Pamela]

[Alan]

Yes, they're all right but they are self contained and passive.

A
_________________
English as a Foreign Language
You can read my EFL story Passive Voice

[Tom]

[Tom]

Tom