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Help on this clause of concession: Despite her poor memory, the old woman told... Tue Dec 12, 2006 14:31 pm  Help on this clause of concession: Despite her poor memory, the old woman told...
 

Hi...please help on an example of clauses of concession below.

* Despite her poor memory, the old woman told interesting stories to the children. (change with even though)

Answer : Even though she had poor memory, the old woman told interesting stories to the children.

can it be changed to

Even though she has poor memory, the old woman told interesting stories to the children?

since I assume that the woman still having a poor memory up to this point.

Please advise, and thanks in advance.

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Even though Tue Dec 12, 2006 15:11 pm  Even though
 

Hi,

I feel there is a conflict between 'has' and 'told'. Accepting that the subject is still living and still has a poor memory, it is not clear why the tense changes to 'told'. By using the past form 'told' we are going back to the time when she 'told' the stories and at that time she 'had' a poor memory. Grammatically it is of little significance that she still has a poor memory. The two verbs 'had' and 'told' are linked and need to be in the same time field.

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Please help on this clause of concession Tue Dec 12, 2006 15:17 pm  Please help on this clause of concession
 

lyliea wrote:
Answer : Even though she had a poor memory, the old woman told interesting stories to the children.

can it be changed to

Even though she has a poor memory, the old woman told interesting stories to the children?

since I assume that the woman still has a poor memory today.

Hi Maria

Without any context, it cannot be simply assumed that the old woman is dead OR that she is still alive (and still has a bad memory). If this was a test question (i.e. without any other context), it would be "safest" to use had since the sentence talks about something that happened in the past.

However, if context confirms or suggests that the old woman is still alive today, it certainly wouldn't be wrong to use has.

Amy

EDIT:
Oops, I see Alan has answered already and I agree with him. Please keep in mind that my comment about the present tense being OK would be dependent on additional context (which you didn't provide).
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