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Expression 'We have very little data'



 
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Expression 'We have very little data' #1 (permalink) Wed Dec 13, 2006 20:40 pm   Expression 'We have very little data'
 

Hi

I heard the expression(s) before - too little data, very little data (or, for example, very little commentary) - they are well-understood, but I supposed them to be very informal.

Today I heard 'very-little-data' in a very serious place and context, from a very serious person 8)

Could you give some comment about 'We have very little data'?
Is it OK in/for standard English?
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Expression 'We have very little data' #2 (permalink) Wed Dec 13, 2006 20:44 pm   Expression 'We have very little data'
 

Hi Tamara,

'Data' has been accepted as a singular idea like 'information'.

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Expression 'We have very little data' #3 (permalink) Wed Dec 13, 2006 20:47 pm   Expression 'We have very little data'
 

Yes, Alan, I know.

But to me in this case 'little data' brings the idea of amount.
This is I can hardly accept 'little data' (not grammatically, but rather... semantically).
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Expression 'We have very little data' #4 (permalink) Wed Dec 13, 2006 20:54 pm   Expression 'We have very little data'
 

Got it! Yes, 'little' is used in the sense of 'not much' rather than small as in 'little people'

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Expression 'We have very little data' #5 (permalink) Wed Dec 13, 2006 20:55 pm   Expression 'We have very little data'
 

Yesss!!!

Thanks. :)
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Expression 'We have very little data' #6 (permalink) Wed Dec 13, 2006 20:58 pm   Expression 'We have very little data'
 

Just out of curiosity:
can I say, for example, 'very little detail is available'?
(implying 'not many')

And what happens if I add an article - a/the very little detail is available'?
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Expression 'We have very little data' #7 (permalink) Thu Dec 14, 2006 0:15 am   Expression 'We have very little data'
 

Tamara wrote:
...can I say, for example, 'very little detail is available'?
(implying 'not many')
Yes, you can, but it implies 'not much'. :lol:

Tamara wrote:
And what happens if I add an article - a/the very little detail is available'?
You could possibly say 'a very little detail' -- but the addition of 'very' makes 'a' sound like it means 'one', i.e. it sounds as though you are referring to 'one miniscule single detail'. (Ditto with 'the'.)

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Expression 'We have very little data' #8 (permalink) Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:49 am   Expression 'We have very little data'
 

:) Thanks, Amy.

Quote:
but the addition of 'very' makes 'a' sound like it means 'one',
I see…
So,
'a detail' (singular) – one specific detail. A small detail :)
'detail' (grammatically singular, too) – details generally. Uncountable :?

OK. Thanks.
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