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My bad, Pamela.
I've seen it spelled "Andriy" often.
Kiev is represented as "Kyyiv" on some English-language maps and globes.
I'm not sure what got into me... to make me opt for the brutally American/Spanish/Italian (I suppose) "Andre".
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Hhmm, that's an interesting topic. Most Ukrainian proper names have two versions -- a Russian and a Ukrainian one each of which have their own English version.
'Andrey' is the English version of the Russian original while 'Andriy' is the English version of the Ukrainian original. Since Shevchenko is Ukrainian, the official version of his name is properly 'Andriy'. The same holds true for the capital. 'Kiev' is the English version of the Russian name while 'Kyiv' is the English version of the Ukrainian original.
Hope this adds to the confusion ;-).
By the way, I haven't hang out neither with Andriy nor Andrey/Andrei Shevchenko (that is, not yet....)
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| #19 (permalink) Tue Jan 09, 2007 21:46 pm New Year |
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What about Andre Shevchenko?
I bet there's someone in the world with that name. hehe
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| #21 (permalink) Tue Jan 09, 2007 22:32 pm New Year |
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I can check the phone book, at least. hehe
"Sir, did you know your name's almost the same as great Ukrainian striker Andriyy Shevchenko? Hey, do you mind if I call you Sheva?"
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| #22 (permalink) Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:54 am New Year |
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| 'Andrey' is the English version of the Russian original |
(A bit off-topic :))
My daughter’s and son’s (Russian) names are 'Anna and Andr'ey, correspondingly (:))
Happily. Living in the UK, they both haven’t ever had any problem with their names.
One small aspect (first time a bit surprising/surprised me) is that Britons (at least in South England) I know all pronounce ‘Anna’ as ’Ana (with the first ‘a’ as in ‘run’ and very short ‘n’) – while I expected to hear something like ‘Ann’ (with ‘a’ as in ‘and’),
and they pronounce Andr'ey as ‘Andrew’ – with the first stressed ‘A’ as in ‘run’
(again, not as in ‘and’ as I expected for some bookish reasons :))
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Another difference is that Ukrainian surnames in Russian are indeclinable
(despite the fact that Russian is highly ‘case grammar’ language, if I can say so)
whereas in Ukrainian 'of/to/for Shevchenko' would sound 'Shevchenku/Shevchenke/Shevchenki, etc'. If I’m not mistaken.
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| #24 (permalink) Wed Jan 10, 2007 15:03 pm New Year |
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wouldn't that be "auf Shevchenko" in German?
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| #26 (permalink) Wed Jan 10, 2007 15:19 pm New Year |
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you know, nothing chaps my @ss quite like when my headphones (earbuds, or whatever they're called -- the ones that are inserted in your ears) STOP WORKING.
Not only do I miss out on the tunes, but it also means that I'm forced to listen to the gossipy musings (she is LOUD) of a nearby coworker.
Do you guys feel me?
I'm trying to get my groove on and then all of a sudden, poof, the music's gone... then scratches back in, then is gone again... in the dead spots, I get to hear all about so-and-so's date with the dude ("doo") who drives an Escalade, and the awful woman he's dating.
Right now I'm monkeying with the cord, twisting it in an effort to get the music to stay on. Okay, this worked: I smacked the cord (the section in front of my chest) and the music is back on... been a good minute now without any dead spots. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
(sorry, I'm stressing here and figured I'd vent. hehe)
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| Tamara wrote: |
Another difference is that Ukrainian surnames in Russian are indeclinable
(despite the fact that Russian is highly ‘case grammar’ language, if I can say so)
whereas in Ukrainian 'of/to/for Shevchenko' would sound 'Shevchenku/Shevchenke/Shevchenki, etc'. If I’m not mistaken. |
You are absolutely right, Tamara. There is a declension of Ukrainian surnames in Ukrainian while there is none in Russian.
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