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"Out of order" vs "Broken"



 
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"Out of order" vs "Broken" #1 (permalink) Tue Jan 09, 2007 13:27 pm   "Out of order" vs "Broken"		  
Hi

The following conversation was held somewhere else. Could you please give your in-put? How would you like to complete the red sentence??
A student wrote:
Do we use "out of order" with things like bicycle, camera,...? -- It's broken or it doesn't work.


Mister Micawber wrote:
Out of order seems to me to be relatively restricted to service machinery-- vending machines, elevators, heating systems, etc.-- or at least to larger and more complicated equipment.

Can I use "out of order" before a noun? -- An out-of-order elevator? Possible, I suppose.

What adjective to use if I want to say... -- "This broken bike/camera; cars are a different kettle of fish: cars aren't running. Hmm... someone else will have to think of an adjective for car; I would just say, 'This *** car is not mine!'


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"Out of order" vs "Broken" #2 (permalink) Tue Jan 09, 2007 13:55 pm   "Out of order" vs "Broken"		  
Hi Tom

"...***..."
I suppose MM might have had a "colorful" expletive in mind -- which his good breeding prevented him from actually writing. Wink

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"Out of order" vs "Broken" #3 (permalink) Tue Jan 09, 2007 15:12 pm   "Out of order" vs "Broken"		  
ROFL

Let me see here:

In the US, "out of order" would be used at least in the following cases:

- Courtroom proceedings (Judge Smith hollered at the miscreant, "You are out of order, sir! Sit down!")

- Vending machines
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"Out of order" vs "Broken" #4 (permalink) Tue Jan 09, 2007 15:41 pm   "Out of order" vs "Broken"		  
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Hmm... someone else will have to think of an adjective for car


If my car won't start, I refer to it as "dead". My car has died and been 'resurrected' rather often, as a matter of fact. Very Happy
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"Out of order" vs "Broken" #5 (permalink) Tue Jan 09, 2007 15:47 pm   "Out of order" vs "Broken"		  
Which begs the question:

At what point does a $350 monthly payment on a new car make more sense than $350 monthly to keep one's current car operational?

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"Out of order" vs "Broken" #6 (permalink) Wed Jan 10, 2007 0:02 am   "Out of order" vs "Broken"		  
Tom wrote:
How would you like to complete the red sentence??


This broken-down car is not mine?

But I'd really like to know what MM had in mind!
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