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'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :)



 
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'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :) #1 (permalink) Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:00 am   'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :)
 

Hi

How do/would you pronounce 'a DIY enthusiast'? Just 'literally'?

(DIY – do-it-yourself)
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'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :) #2 (permalink) Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:50 am   'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :)
 

Hi Tamara,

Yes, you spell out each letter and give each its full value as in V I P or P T O.

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'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :) #3 (permalink) Thu Jan 11, 2007 13:45 pm   'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :)
 

Hi Alan

Thanks.

My question was caused by my Russian background, as in informal spoken Russian some abbreviations - as VIP from your example - are likely to be pronounced by people as a 'word' - just [vip] (despite the same formal rules for pronouncing abbreviations as in English).
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'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :) #4 (permalink) Thu Jan 11, 2007 14:19 pm   'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :)
 

Hi Tamara,
I believe VIP is more an acronym than an abbreviation. However, I agree that in Russian there is no difference between the two.
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'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :) #5 (permalink) Thu Jan 11, 2007 15:49 pm   'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :)
 

Hi Pamela,
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I believe VIP is more an acronym than an abbreviation. I agree that in Russian there is no difference between the two.

OR? Do you mean that they are two different notions?
And that there is any difference in definitions of acronym - in Russian and English? I know nothing about that.

Let's just investigate it a bit. :)
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acronym
an abbreviation consisting of the first letters of each word in the name of something,
pronounced as a word:
AIDS is an acronym for 'Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome'.
© Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary

As I know, in Russian also: акроним – это инициальная аббревиатура для НАЗВАНИЙ
(acronym = 'initials' abbreviation for names)
In the strict sense of the words.

So, in this strict sense, VIP is not an acronym - neither in Russian, nor in English (as it is not a name of something or somebody),
even though it’s an abbreviation in both languages.

Or show me where I’m wrong. :)

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Hmm. Now, due to your note, I know more formal rules about pronunciation of "инициальных аббревиатур" in Russian :)
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They are of three different types/groups – depending on the way of creating. And they pronounce and decline differently, depending on the type.
Wow!

Thanks. :)

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http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/VIP - 98 different defintions/decoding : ) of VIP :)

And they say it's acronym, yes... but then... what about pronounced as a word (see the above definition I quoted)?... :? :cry:
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'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :) #6 (permalink) Fri Jan 12, 2007 0:38 am   'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :)
 

while we're on the subject, O.B.G.Y.N. is a false acronym.

"Hey, Shelly, where've you been for the past two hours?"

"Oh, I went to see my O.B.G.Y.N."

"Really, what's that -- Obnoxious Burglar Getting Your Niceties?"

"No... my Obstetrician-Gynecologist."

"Oh, so you mean your Ob-Gyn or O.G..."

"No, my O.B.G.Y.N.!"

"Oh, brother..."
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'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :) #7 (permalink) Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:40 am   'a DIY enthusiast' – please, pronounce it for me :)
 

…Now, having opened Wikipedia and some other useful links on the subject (thanks, Pamela, for your PM), I’ve learnt a lot.

abbreviations...
acronyms (pure, false), apronyms (false, recursive, offensive..), backronyms…

OK…

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