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'at the beginning and end' - how about the second 'the'?



 
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'at the beginning and end' - how about the second 'the'? #1 (permalink) Sat Jan 20, 2007 20:48 pm   'at the beginning and end' - how about the second 'the'?
 

Hi

'at the beginning and end'

Could you say:

1. Does Standard English require putting the second the before ‘end’?

2. How does the end (:)) of the phrase ([end end]) sound to you? Easy understandable, if verbally (not in writing)?
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'at the beginning and end' - how about the second 'the'? #2 (permalink) Sat Jan 20, 2007 21:49 pm   'at the beginning and end' - how about the second 'the'?
 

Hi,

I don't really see a problem with omitting the second 'the'. You would simply gain greater emphasis by adding the other 'the'.

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'at the beginning and end' - how about the second 'the'? #3 (permalink) Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:20 am   'at the beginning and end' - how about the second 'the'?
 

Tamara wrote:
2. How does the end (:)) of the phrase ([end end]) sound to you? Easy understandable, if verbally (not in writing)?


Easily understandable, yes -- keep in mind that 'and end' are two different sounds.
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'at the beginning and end' - how about the second 'the'? #4 (permalink) Sun Jan 21, 2007 13:23 pm   'at the beginning and end' - how about the second 'the'?
 

Hi Alan, hi Conchita

Thanks for your answers.

Quote:
You would simply gain greater emphasis by adding the other 'the'.

OK.

Just note that 'beginning' and 'end' are used in plenty - both with and without 'the', and in various combinations ('beginning of the end', 'from beginning to end', etc ) and it's sometimes difficult for me to learn how they 'should' be used in a specific context to make the desired emphasis not being 'excessive'.
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