Google
English-Test.net
Find penpals and make new friends today!
 
to express sympathy with another in sorrow, pain or misfortune
prognosticate
elucidate
consummate
condole
full quiz correct answer
 
Username
Password
 Remember me? 
Search   Album   FAQ   Memberlist   Profile   Private messages   Register   Log in 

Why TOEFLŽ after GREŽ?



 
TOEFL Practice tests Increase your TOEFL test score with
120 Vocabulary + 100 Grammar tests
600 TOEFL flashcards plus an ESL book
ESL Forum | Preparation for and help with the TOEFLŽ Test and essay samples collection
ToeflŽ Test dates 2007 | TOEFLŽ essay sample: The best way to travel is in a group led by a tour guide
listening exercisestell a friend
Message
Author
Why TOEFL after GRE? #1 (permalink) Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:55 am   Why TOEFL after GRE?
 

Hi pple,

I'm preparing to take the GRE sometimes this year, say in two months time. I'm from Nigeria and all my studies from Primary sch thru Secondary sch to University have been acquired thru English Language. Moreso, the official language of my country is English. So why wud i need to take the TOEFL after my GRE.....Cant i b exempted from that :?:

TOEFL listening lectures: A university lecture by a professor of Art History
Laroche
New Member


Joined: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 8
Location: Nigeria

Why TOEFL after GRE? #2 (permalink) Fri Jan 26, 2007 13:50 pm   Why TOEFL after GRE?
 

laroche wrote:
I'm preparing to take the GRE sometimes this year, say in two months time. I'm from Nigeria and all my studies from Primary sch thru Secondary sch to University have been acquired thru English Language. Moreso, the official language of my country is English. So why wud i need to take the TOEFL after my GRE.....Cant i b exempted from that :?:

I'm almost sure you can't be exempted from the TOEFL, and I'm sure that you SHOULDN'T be exempted, because the English in your post was not good.

I hear the same complaint from Nigerian students in the United States very often. Even though the official language of their country is English, and even though their education has been in some kind of English, their actual command of English is usually terrible. They understand everything we say, but they don't speak real English, but some kind of expanded pidgin or creole English, and they have terrible trouble speaking and writing English that is understandable to the Americans and the British.

When they take the TOEFL or some other English placement exam, they usually score into a low intermediate class and are very angry about it, and very arrogant about their bad command of English. They'll claim their creole English is "British" English, and they'll have great trouble with very basic aspects of English grammar, such as the comparative and superlative, and with most verb tenses. Many of them use only three verb tenses, and some of them use no verb tenses at all. They come out with terrible sentences, such as, "I am not doing well in this class, is it?" and when they fail exams because of many very basic English mistakes, they will fume that they were taught according to the British standard.

The point is that these people have learned to understand English, so they can understand almost everything they hear or read, and can probably pass the GRE or some other test that is not an English test. However, their English speaking and writing is often terrible, and sometimes it's almost impossible to understand, so they cannot pass the TOEFL.

It's very common for people from Nigeria, Liberia, Jamaica and other countries where English is official to fail the TOEFL and have to take ESL.
Jamie (K)
I'm a Communicator ;-)


Joined: 24 Feb 2006
Posts: 6552
Location: Detroit, Michigan, USA

TOEFL Prep Tests — Increase your Score with 120 free TOEFL Vocabulary TestsTOEFL Study Guide Guaranteed to Raise TOEFL scores without weeks and months of studying — View the Free ReportTOEFL Test Package — Learn the most difficult TOEFL vocabulary words you need to pass the TOEFL with these vocabulary tests and this unique flash card systemSign up for FREE and explore English! Click to subscribe to email English course
Display posts from previous:   
ToeflŽ Test dates 2007 | TOEFLŽ essay sample: The best way to travel is in a group led by a tour guide
ESL Forum | Preparation for and help with the TOEFLŽ Test and essay samples collection All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1
Latest topics on TOEFL Test Forums
Are you able to use a spell checker? As a TOEFLŽ candidate you should be!TOEFLŽ essay: If you could change one important thing about your hometown...old TOEFLŽ score will be reflected along with the new TOEFLŽ scoresTOEFLŽ essay: Some businesses observe that people who just finished college...Do we have to give TOEFLŽ test after giving IELTS for US universities?TOEFLŽ essay sample: A company has announced that it wishes to build a large...TOEFLŽ essay: Popular events like the football world cup and other internationalTOEFLŽ essay sample: Not everything that is learned is contained in booksTOEFLŽ essay: Parents are the best teachersTOEFLŽ sample essay: Why people go to college and universityTOEFLŽ essay samples: Nowadays, food has become easier to prepareTOEFLŽ essay sample: Canada is a democratic country like Turkey...TOEFLŽ essay sample: Many people like to spend lots of time with their friends...

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Subscribe to FREE email English course
First name E-mail