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#2 (permalink) Fri Jan 26, 2007 20:42 pm With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : reference back |
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Hi Tamara,
You could of course say 'briefcase in hand' or 'carrying his briefcase'. The point here is a question of style and to me the repetition of 'his' makes the point that this person is carrying the briefcase with an air of determination. You know the scene in Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens where the boy Oliver asks for more to eat. Now I don't know what the great man actually wrote, off the top of my head, but you could say: Oliver with his little bowl in his little hand asked for more.
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#3 (permalink) Fri Jan 26, 2007 20:51 pm With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : reference back |
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Hi Tamara,
I overegged it I'm afraid. The Great Man didn't use 'his' at all!
http://www.teachit.co.uk/attachments/dicex3.pdf
If you read to the end, it says simply 'basin and spoon in hand'
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#4 (permalink) Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:25 am With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : forward reference |
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Hi Alan,
Thanks, really nice reading for me.
Actually, I also asked about the following (sentence) scheme: First, <Participle phase with his/her/him/…> and then – <main clause, introducing the subject>.
Personally, I don’t like it (when it’s not a special fiction writing technique). In Russian, too. _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#5 (permalink) Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:30 am With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : forward reference |
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Hi,
Can you give me an example?
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#6 (permalink) Sat Jan 27, 2007 13:44 pm With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : forward reference |
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One example I gave above, in the first post of the thread. It's from my home exercise on 'Participle Phrases'. )
To illustrate what I mean, I'll try to construct my own sentence, intentionally exaggerating this (cranky) writing style/structure:
Having opened the front door of her house and hardly restrained herself from sharp words against her new neighbours leaving their car right in front of her garage, <the subject> (Mary/a young blonde woman/…) + <the main verb> … _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#7 (permalink) Sat Jan 27, 2007 13:45 pm With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : forward reference |
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Hi Tamara
I think you'd be less likely to hear a sentence such as both "With his briefcase in his hand, the new sales manager walked ..." and "With briefcase in hand, the new sales manager walked ..." in everyday spoken English.
In spoken English it's more likely that people will start the sentence off with "The new sales manager walked..."
Is that what you wanted to know?
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#8 (permalink) Sat Jan 27, 2007 13:54 pm With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : forward reference |
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Hi Tamara,
Let's redo that:
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Having opened the front door of her house and hardly restrained herself from sharp words against her new neighbours leaving their car right in front of her garage, <the subject> (Mary/a young blonde woman/…) + <the main verb> … _________________ |
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Having opened the front door of the house and refraining from using sharp words against the new neighbours for having left their car in front of her garage, the young woman ...
I've just kept in 'their' and 'her' to show why she is peeved.
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#9 (permalink) Sat Jan 27, 2007 13:55 pm With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : forward reference |
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| In spoken English it's more likely that people will start the sentence off with "The new sales manager walked..." |
Yes, Amy, but I'm talking about writing styles. This June I'm going to take ESOL exams of/at the next level. :) _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#10 (permalink) Sat Jan 27, 2007 13:58 pm With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : forward reference |
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| Having opened the front door of the house and refraining from using sharp words against the new neighbours for having left their car in front of her garage, the young woman ... |
Thanks a lot, Alan. Your sentence sounds much better than mine :)
The only doubt for me is: could I use the (definite article, I mean) here if it were (let's imagine this) the very first sentence of a story? _________________ It’s impossible to learn swimming without entering the water… |
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#11 (permalink) Sat Jan 27, 2007 14:12 pm With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : forward reference |
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That's OK because it is the door of the house and the neighbours of the house.
In other words it's all hunky-dory, tickety-boo, even kosher or as everyone says no worries/no problem.
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#12 (permalink) Sat Jan 27, 2007 14:15 pm With his briefcase in his hand, the manager walked … : forward reference |
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| Alan wrote: |
the door of the house and the neighbours of the house.
it's all hunky-dory, tickety-boo, even kosher |
:) :D :D
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