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#17 (permalink) Fri Jul 08, 2011 19:43 pm What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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Of course you can say: They decided to make up or They decided to make it up. It very much depends on what you are referring to and what the situation is. 'Make it up' would be used for something formal like two countries/two political parties. 'Make up' would be informal between individuals.
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#18 (permalink) Fri Jul 08, 2011 19:51 pm What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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Thanks Bez,
I can't say anything else that thanks God and we are lucky that at the present time we are not undergraduate students, aren't we? Are these words correct and existing yet when we speak about exams? -repeat exam -resit -retake Many thanks because the dictionaries give unambiguous answers.
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#19 (permalink) Fri Jul 08, 2011 19:55 pm What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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Hi Kati,
I think 'reset' is for the examiner to do and 'resit' would be for the student.
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#20 (permalink) Fri Jul 08, 2011 21:23 pm What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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Hello Alan,
The typos are my death. Of course I wanted to write resit/ retake= (the exam or a test again, usually after failing in the first time.)
My question would be what is the name of the exam that I have to postpone without failing, say, because of illness.
This would be: the make up=(but Oxford Dictionary says it's a special exam taken by the students who missed or failed the earlier one. Oxford Dictionary doesn't say this is a postponed exam. In Hungarian there are two words one who fails: this is repeat exam and the other who can't take exam on a given day : this is a postponed exam.
Postpone exam: you have not got a bad note in your registration book Repeat exam: you have a bad note and you are only allowed one resit.
Can we use alternatively resit/retake/make up?
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#21 (permalink) Fri Jul 08, 2011 21:39 pm What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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| Yankee wrote: |
Just a comment on American vs British usage:
The use of 'make it up' in the test sentence does NOT sound natural to my American ears. In North America, I would expect the word 'it' to be omitted in such a context:
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It's not a US v Brit usage thing, because I agree - and you can see that in my response (message #11) after I quote the original phrases, when I was making my point I used 'make up' rather than 'make it up'. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#22 (permalink) Fri Jul 08, 2011 21:54 pm What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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Hello Yankee,
Who chose the British English they meet the expression: -make it up with somebody (Br.E.) -make up with somebody(AmE) Examples: -Why don't you make up with you boy friend ? -Has he made it up with her yet? -Have they made it up with their parents?
Both means to end a disagreement with somebody and become friends again. I like both and I think we have to respect both ! Each has its own tradition, hasn't it?
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#23 (permalink) Fri Jul 08, 2011 22:49 pm What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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| Kati Svaby wrote: |
Examples: -Why don't you make up with you boy friend ? -Has he made it up with her yet? -Have they made it up with their parents? |
Hi Kati,
Yes, the use of 'make it up with somebody' in your examples sounds completely unnatural and wrong to my American ear. Before today, if one of my students had used 'make it up with somebody', I would have told that student that the inclusion of 'it' was wrong!
Although I've become familiar with quite a few of the differences between BrE and AmE, I don't know all of them. At any rate, that's why I pointed out that this seems to be another one of those unexpected little differences between AmE and BrE.
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-make it up with somebody (Br.E.) -make up with somebody(AmE) |
By the way, from what I have gathered here in this thread, my assumption now is that 'make up with somebody' is used in BOTH AmE and BrE, but that 'make it up with somebody' is basically a British usage.
Perhaps Beeesneees or Alan or Dozy will comment on that. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#24 (permalink) Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:49 am What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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| Kati Svaby wrote: |
Hello Yankee,
Who chose the British English they meet the expression: -make it up with somebody (Br.E.) -make up with somebody(AmE)
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That's not right, Kati!
make up with somebody (Br.E and AmE)
they decided to make it up they made it up seems to be Br.E from what Yankee is saying, and 'it' here refers to their friendship. No 'with...' following it. However use of 'it' is far less common than usage without it.
If my British ears were asked about these: They argued years ago but have now made up. They argued years ago but have now made it up. they would both sound acceptable. (it = their previous relationship)
However, if I were asked about these: He argued with his girlfriend but he has now made up with her. He argued with his girlfriend but he has now made it up with her. the second does NOT sound as natural. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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#25 (permalink) Sun Jul 10, 2011 23:44 pm What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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Hello Bez,
I have to say that what I write I always control in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary by A S Hornby (Eigth edition)
here it is: make up (with sb) (BrE. also): make it up (with sb)
to end a disagreement with sb and become friends again
-Why don't you two kiss and make up? -Has he made it up with her yet? -Have they made it up yet? (on 932. page)
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#26 (permalink) Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:49 am What does this phrasal verb mean: "Make it up"? |
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In your earlier post you indicated that 'make up' was AmE only. That's what I was disagreeing with. What you say in your latest post agrees wih what I wrote above it. _________________ Cheers m' dears! |
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