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To me or for me Mon Jan 19, 2004 9:48 am  To me or for me
 

Hello everybody!!! Could you answer me, please. I don't know what proposition must I choose in these sentences:
That he read Latin was news *TO* me
or
That he read Latin was news *FOR* me
Many thanks. Ariadna Rolling Eyes
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News to me Mon Jan 19, 2004 10:50 am  News to me
 

Hi Ariadna,

It was news to you that he read Latin because before you didn't know.
If something is news for you the information is addressed to you and no-one else.
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News to me Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:18 am  News to me
 

Hello Torsren, this difference is very important.
My friend sometimes tells me:" You must understand it. This is true" But in one article I saw sentence. *That is true*.
Maybe, he always makes the mistake. What do you think?
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To / for Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:40 am  To / for
 

Hi Ariadna,

Just a quick comment to add something to what Torsten has already written. You could use both forms in the same sentence: It was certainly news to me (the first time I had heard this) that the information was good news for you (intended for you).

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To / for Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:05 pm  To / for
 

Frankly speaking, Alan I thought that *to me* and *for me* had the same meaning. Once I noticed that my boss sometimes used *to me* and *for me*. Unfortunately, I had no opportunity to ask him. Now I understand that this difference is substantial.
Thank you
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To / for Mon Jan 19, 2004 14:02 pm  To / for
 

Hi everybody again!! Hi Alan and Torsten! I am sorry very much, but I want to ask you about my second guestion. *this is true* and *that is true*, *it is true* - do all these expressiones have the same meaning?
For instance,
Living without water is impossible. It is true( this is true, that is true)
I couldn't find the explanation in my grammatical books.
Thank you for your help in advance
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This is true... Mon Jan 19, 2004 17:04 pm  This is true...
 

Ariadna, what about these sentences:
It is true that living without water is impossible. (grammatically correct although a bit clumpsy)
That much is true: Living without water is impossible.
Living without water is impossible. This is true.
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This is true... Mon Jan 19, 2004 17:29 pm  This is true...
 

Torsten wrote:
Ariadna, what about these sentences:
It is true that living without water is impossible. (grammatically correct although a bit clumpsy)
That much is true: Living without water is impossible.
Living without water is impossible. This is true.

Dear Torsten, I see that you recommend to use the sentence
*This is true*. (In my case) But I don't understand( unfortunately, indeed)
*That much is true*
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This much is true... Tue Jan 20, 2004 10:50 am  This much is true...
 

Hi Ariadna,

You can use that much is true or this much is true whenever you want to emphasize that something is a fact. It's just a set phrase.
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This much is true... Tue Jan 20, 2004 10:55 am  This much is true...
 

Hi Torsten, thank you for your help.
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