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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 19:02 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Jamie (K) wrote:
Che Gevara wrote:
To tell you the truth I'm not much interested in these vids ,but I may watch them when I have time ...

You expect us to be open-minded about your arguments, but at the same time you expect us to accept closed-mindedness from the other side.

I JUST WANT THIS WAR OVER AND YOU DON'T ...
CAUSE YOU HATE MUSLIMS .. AND I DON'T
AND IF I WERE MUSLIM AND IF AMERICAN SOLDIERS KILLED MY PARENTS AND MY CHILDREN I WOULD HAVE SPENT ALL MY LIVE KILLING THEM,TO REVENGE
I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HATE AMERICANS
BUT THESE AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE GOOD GUYS , SOME OF THEM ARE REAL MANIACS AND SICK ................ BUT MOSTLY GOOD GUYS , WHO LOVES HE'S COUNTRY ,WHO WANTS TO EARN SOME MONEY AND STUDY IN COLLEGE..
BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVE AN ......... PRESIDENT...
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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 19:23 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Jamie (K)
I don't really know whether Georgians parliament members read laws or not, cause We have no Georgian Michael Moor : ))))))))
and I have never seen a drunk member in the parliament of Georgia
and You are a lier, or someone who told you that is a lier and you very naive : )))
I am very anti-Bush,if he was a president of Luxemburg it wouldn't be a big problem,but he's a president of a very big and powerful Country,so too much depends on he's decisions,too much blood on he's hands...

Unfortunately My presidents is a great fun and friend of yours,so he has sent Georgian guys in Iraq too,and one of them has lost he's legs..
At least We want Our guys back...
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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 19:27 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Che Gevara wrote:
Jamie (K) wrote:
Che Gevara wrote:
To tell you the truth I'm not much interested in these vids ,but I may watch them when I have time ...

You expect us to be open-minded about your arguments, but at the same time you expect us to accept closed-mindedness from the other side.

I JUST WANT THIS WAR OVER AND YOU DON'T ...
CAUSE YOU HATE MUSLIMS .. AND I DON'T
AND IF I WERE MUSLIM AND IF AMERICAN SOLDIERS KILLED MY PARENTS AND MY CHILDREN I WOULD HAVE SPENT ALL MY LIVE KILLING THEM,TO PROTECT OTHER OTHERS
I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HATE AMERICANS
BUT THESE AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE GOOD GUYS TOO , SOME OF THEM ARE REAL MANIACS AND SICK ................ BUT MOSTLY GOOD GUYS , WHO LOVES HE'S COUNTRY ,WHO WANTS TO EARN SOME MONEY AND STUDY IN COLLEGE..
BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVE AN EVIL PRESIDENT...

yes ,Che Gevara

sometime you'll find persons love kill of people for nothing just for money,and they send their soldiers to death in far places.

I guess any normal person think like you. and the un normal persons like to drink people's blood.

Poor J Evil or Very Mad

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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 19:50 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

prez
I've never said saddam was good.. but it is not civil to bomb Countries,because We don't like their Presidens
There are still many presidents who are not very "good " :
Let's bomb Russia ,Belorus,Cuba ,Venesuela,Iran e.t.c

Is that what you people want ?
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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 20:12 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Che Gevara wrote:
I JUST WANT THIS WAR OVER AND YOU DON'T ...
CAUSE YOU HATE MUSLIMS .. AND I DON'T
AND IF I WERE MUSLIM AND IF AMERICAN SOLDIERS KILLED MY PARENTS AND MY CHILDREN I WOULD HAVE SPENT ALL MY LIVE KILLING THEM,TO REVENGE
I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HATE AMERICANS
BUT THESE AMERICAN SOLDIERS ARE GOOD GUYS , SOME OF THEM ARE REAL MANIACS AND SICK ................ BUT MOSTLY GOOD GUYS , WHO LOVES HE'S COUNTRY ,WHO WANTS TO EARN SOME MONEY AND STUDY IN COLLEGE..
BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVE AN ......... PRESIDENT...

Sorry, Che, but you only seem to be ranting and raving -- and your logic does not seem to be logical. If a Muslim killed your family, would you spend your whole life killing all other Muslims? If a woman killed your family, would you spend your whole life killing all other women? This is precisely what you seem to be claiming. That would be mindless, maniacal violence. Do you actually support that?

There is a difference between understanding and agreeing with something, in my opinion. I can't help feeling that you did not understand my previous post. You definitely don't understand Jamie. And that's too bad. I don't agree with everything Jamie writes, either, but he certainly makes many very valid points. That does not mean that he makes the only valid points, but SHOUTING and supporting massive violence only make your views unbelievable. Sorry, but that's my opinion.
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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 21:48 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Yankee
if a muslim killed my family I wouldn't hated all muslims for that...
if any other Country's troops came to my Country and had been killing my citizens for years I would have spent all my life killing them until they'd gone away..
and I'm not ranting or raving : )))))))))))))))
why do you think I'm shouting ? and I'm not supporting any violence...
Do you think 100 000 dead iraqees are not result of violence ?
what do you feel that 100 000 people died and much more will die ?
What do you think was that a mistake or right decision ?
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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 23:19 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Hi Che

THIS IS CALLED SHOUTING.

AND THIS WOULD BE SHOUTING EVEN LOUDER. Wink

Che, your 100,000 number has far more to do with violence that is Iraqi against Iraqi. Your sentence seems designed only to mislead and incite anger and it is exactly the sort of statement that I deplore -- on both "sides" of this argument.

Do I think the decision to send American troops to Iraq was a mistake? You bet I do. I believed this to be a mistake before the war ever began. I even peppered Bush with e-mails and have the bla-bla-bla responses from the White House to prove it.

But what can be done now? Saddam is gone, American troops are still in Iraq and Iraqis are killing Iraqis in huge numbers. Do you suppose all the killing would magically stop if all American troops left Iraq tomorrow? What's your solution to the problem?

Amy

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I guess I don't have the right software to open a 'rar' file. Confused
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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 23:33 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Che

It isn't about hating Muslims. It's about hating terrorists and insurgents who try to derail the new, democratic Iraq.

They don't have a right to keep Iraq from being a peaceful country in which people have the right to vote to elect their leaders.

We'd leave now if we could, but we CAN'T leave Iraq right now, not with the current security situation. We need to get people to calm down.

If Iraq becomes somewhat stable and continues in democracy, then taking down Saddam will have been worth the effort. Freedom often costs blood, because some people can't handle freedom and try very hard to prevent it. The insurgents couldn't handle losing power, so they decided to -- instead of talk/vote -- kill people. They lost their power and took the violent path. They cannot be allowed to terrorize Iraq like that. Most Iraqis voted, who could. Many Iraqis braved bullets to do so. THEY want democracy. We owe it to them to help them.
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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 23:37 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Yankee
Rar file doens't need any software to open ,you just have to click on that file right button of your mouse
choose "extract files "or " extract here" it's very easy
then u can watch these 3 vids in windows media player or media player classic ..

Americans can't kill every iraqy and more iraqees they kill more of them decide to take weapon and fight..
So I think only solution to this problem is to take US,Uk troops back from this Country ..
But as I know GWB is going to send more troops there
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What happened on September 11? Fri Mar 09, 2007 23:46 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

prez
I'm against terrorism ..
You just think this war is for democratic Iraq and I think it's for Oil in Iraq.. : ))))
and I don't like that Georgian troops take part in this war..
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What happened on September 11? Sat Mar 10, 2007 0:37 am  What happened on September 11?
 

Hello
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I guess I don't have the right software to open a 'rar' file.

Your need the WinRAR program to extract such files. Windows could unpack files with .zip extension but not .rar unfortunately.
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What happened on September 11? Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:53 am  What happened on September 11?
 

Yankee wrote:
Hi Che

THIS IS CALLED SHOUTING.

AND THIS WOULD BE SHOUTING EVEN LOUDER. Wink

Che, your 100,000 number has far more to do with violence that is Iraqi against Iraqi. Your sentence seems designed only to mislead and incite anger and it is exactly the sort of statement that I deplore -- on both "sides" of this argument.

Do I think the decision to send American troops to Iraq was a mistake? You bet I do. I believed this to be a mistake before the war ever began. I even peppered Bush with e-mails and have the bla-bla-bla responses from the White House to prove it.

But what can be done now? Saddam is gone, American troops are still in Iraq and Iraqis are killing Iraqis in huge numbers. Do you suppose all the killing would magically stop if all American troops left Iraq tomorrow? What's your solution to the problem?

Amy

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I guess I don't have the right software to open a 'rar' file. Confused

Hi, Amy Very Happy

how are you?
first, you must know Jamie Evil or Very Mad hate all arabic people and moslems,
and he does as Nazis did.

second, I wonder ... why do you think all moslems are terrorists?

you have to know these things:
you come to our countries with your soldiers and tanks let's us change turns, If we come to your countries with our weapons and we say to you" you do against us"
what do you do?!

Dear Amy
I'm sorry if I say hard words but I think there different between terrorisation and resistance.

Syria gave to US important information about terrorists after September 11,that not said my government but that said CIA .

in the end we don't want American troops leave Iraq now but we and most iraqis want to know when the American troops will leave Iraq.

because it's impossible American troops stay in iraq for ever.

“On earth be peace with mercy blending,
Goodwill to men, and love unending”

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What happened on September 11? Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:43 am  What happened on September 11?
 

Dark magician wrote:
Hi, Amy Very Happy

how are you?
first, you must know Jamie Evil or Very Mad hate all arabic people and moslems,
and he does as Nazis did.

Hi DM,

Why do you think Jamie hates all Arabic people and Moslems? I know his views on certain issues might differ from yours and mine but I can't imagine him "just hating all Arabic people". This type of discussion doesn't lead us anywhere -- it's a bit like in Kindergarten when kids are pointing their fingers at each other shouting "You are the bad guy!"
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What happened on September 11? Sat Mar 10, 2007 14:34 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Hi Torsten!

I think you?re right with your latter post and more than that: this discussion seems a never-ending one!

So I?d prefer to return to your initial thought and add some thoughts about the technical side of the collapse of the WTC-towers. In large towers like them there often is hung up a pendulum at the top in order to balance swingings which are caused by windcraft or else which the towers are exposed to. You certainly can imagine what weight such pendulums must have. Now, in that sense I must admit that it was ingenius (but satanic) plan. As much as I know the terrorists had tried to blow up the WTC?s some years before by installing some bombs in the cellars (some 100 kg?s of dynamite) and failed. So I can imagine that they have studied the architectural plans and decided to hit the pendulums. Therefore the aeroplans had been perfect: 1st the plans can fly and so it was easy to reach the height and 2nd the mass had have enough power to reach the middle of the towers where the pendulums hung. I take the way the towers collapsed upon themselves as an evidence for my theory.

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What happened on September 11? Sat Mar 10, 2007 15:09 pm  What happened on September 11?
 

Torsten wrote:
Dark magician wrote:
Hi, Amy Very Happy

how are you?
first, you must know Jamie Evil or Very Mad hate all arabic people and moslems,
and he does as Nazis did.

Hi DM,

Why do you think Jamie hates all Arabic people and Moslems? I know his views on certain issues might differ from yours and mine but I can't imagine him "just hating all Arabic people". This type of discussion doesn't lead us anywhere -- it's a bit like in Kindergarten when kids are pointing their fingers at each other shouting "You are the bad guy!"

Hi, T
First I prefer call me Mba not DM
Ok, do you want to know: why I think Jamie hates all hates all Arabic people and Moslems?
Just... look on some of his write (if you look for in his posts you will find more)

Jamie "K" wrote:
And don't even get me into Muslim religious propaganda. The religion was spread through violence right from the time of Mohammed, and they continue to spread it by threatening people or killing people to spread fear in others. There are quite a few writers who are very critical of Christianity, and they do not have to hide. Many writers who criticize Islam get death threats and have to go into hiding. And, as with other things, I find that Muslims lie about their religion when it suits their purpose.

Jamie "K" wrote:
In other words, Islam spread to Georgia in the usual way -- by violence and force.

Jamie "K" wrote:
These Georgian Muslims sound like many Albanian Muslims. Those Albanians say to me, "We're bad Muslims, because the religion was forced on us.

Jamie "K" wrote:
I am told by Lebanese, Syrian and Egyptian Muslims that in their countries Muslims and Christians "live together as brothers", but Christians from those same places tell me the opposite story. And I see documentaries that tell about all kinds of discrimination, murder and other crimes in those places based on religious intolerance.

after that what do you think?

T. I like to remember too.
In Kindergarten our teachers said to us don't hurt and revile your partners, that right Wink

regards,

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