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| Conchita wrote: | It has probably more to do with the fact that both halves of the same fruit are usually identical. The English phrase 'my other half' is a good equivalent.
We also say 'encontrar la horma de su zapato': 'to meet one's match' (literally 'to find the mould to one's shoe'). |
We too have the same expression,Conchita.
"Bagai pinang di belah dua" literally "Like 'pinang'(a type of fruit?) divided into two" usually used to describe a couple that is so suited for each other but usually only from the outside(physically).
| Haihao wrote: | | Your 'yan bu jian, xin bu fan --> out of sight, out of mind' is really interesting, Nina! But should I take its literal meaning in as: you won't be annoyed if the object is out of your sight? |
Haihao dear, I'm afraid I'm still undecided with this expression.I wish it could be that simple.It has been on my mind for almost two weeks now. It all started when my mom teased me on how easily my 'other half of orange' would forget me now that we are geographically separated, or as he said, is it the other way around?
But your definition is so refreshing I can take a whole new meaning to it now. Thanks!I'm really glad you asked me.
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I know the pinang tree, Nina, and I understand there is a lot of it in Malaysia. I have also heard of there was even a place called Pinang City(?) before. Is this information correct?
BTW, I am not confident of whether I should use 'there is a lot of it' or 'there are a lot of them' here, and 'heard of there was...' or 'heard of that there was...'. Could anyone please tell me of that?
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| Haihao wrote: | I know the pinang tree, Nina, and I understand there is a lot of it in Malaysia. I have also heard of there was even a place called Pinang City(?) before. Is this information correct?
BTW, I am not confident of whether I should use 'there is a lot of it' or 'there are a lot of them' here, and 'heard of there was...' or 'heard of that there was...'. Could anyone please tell me of that?
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Huuhuu, now you really impressed me Haihao. Yes we have a lot of pinang tree here and it's like 20m tall and granmamas and grandpapas eat the pinang fruit/seeds with 'sirih', (a type of leaf) and 'batu kapur'(limestone) and they grind them together with 'lesung' (a grinding stone), and eat them after any meal.They don't swallow it, just the juice from them.
I will leave anything that I was doing everytime I saw my grandmama opened her special box where she kept them. She always let me grind them but never let me cut the pinang seed  I tried it once when I was 6 or 7 (after a lot of crying and stomping they finally gave in) and unless you have a very thick tongue, don't!
And it's not Pinang City, it's Penang in English and we call the island 'Pulau Pinang' literally Pinang Island.
And I see nothing's wrong with your sentences but I was told to use plural forms when describing things in general. And I think it's clearer if you put 'that' to your sentence. But let's hear what the natives have to say about this.
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| NinaZara wrote: | | Huuhuu, now you really impressed me Haihao. Yes we have a lot of pinang tree here and it's like 20m tall and granmamas and grandpapas eat the pinang fruit/seeds with 'sirih', (a type of leaf) and 'batu kapur'(limestone) and they grind them together with 'lesung' (a grinding stone), and eat them after any meal.They don't swallow it, just the juice from them. |
I have also heard of that the pinang fruit/seeds would bring out red juice in your mouth, right?
| NinaZara wrote: | | And it's not Pinang City, it's Penang in English and we call the island 'Pulau Pinang' literally Pinang Island. |
Is it Bing Lang Yu in Chinese?
| NinaZara wrote: | | And I see nothing's wrong with your sentences but I was told to use plural forms when describing things in general. And I think it's clearer if you put 'that' to your sentence. But let's hear what the natives have to say about this. |
Thank you for the tip.
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| How about George Town, Nina? |
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You seem to know a lot about Penang. Well, George Town is the capital city of Penang, named after some England's king named George I guess. I don't remember much I learnt this like 8 million years ago. 
And oh yes, the veteran like to call it Tanjung but I think everybody just call it 'Georgetown'.
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| Haihao wrote: | 'heard of there was...' or 'heard of that there was...'. Could anyone please tell me that?
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You don't need the preposition 'of' in your sentence, Haihao. Also, the conjunction 'that' is optional:
I have also heard (that) there was... |
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Thanks a million, Conchita. Now I am firmly confident in using them.
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| meaning of "that takes most of the water down it" | Expression: be fed up to here |
Uri Futatsu (literally a gourd in two --> two peas in a pod).
But I think Malaysian Chinese prefer 'Penang'.