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Hi Nina,
It seems to me that 'independent of' has a sense of 'regardless' while 'independent from' suggests 'A is separated from B'. e.g. 'The children have been independent from their parents.' In the latter case, A and B should belong to the same realm (or they were together before). Considering the context you gave here, my feeling is 'independent of' would be the right choice to mean 'regardless of the resistance'.
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| #3 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:20 am Independent of or Independent from? |
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Thanks, Haihao! great great help!
p/s: I have not yet found the pin yin that you asked me, I even asked my significant other (he's Chinese) but he was no help at all. He's not into this kind of nonsense, or so he said.
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| #5 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:05 am Independent of or Independent from? |
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Hi NinaZara,
I'm curious whether this sentence is correct or not:
The power supply doesn't depend on the resistance and is able to provide a constant rate to the device.
I like the variant.  |
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| #6 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:08 am Independent of or Independent from? |
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| Pamela wrote: |
The power supply doesn't depend on the resistance and is able to provide a constant rate to the device.
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Wow Pamela, you made me look back at the circuit I've drawn.
I intended the phrase 'independent of' here to mean 'free of' because the resistors are situated not to intefere with the current flowing to the 'device'.
Devices do depend on resistors out of it's own and sometimes they don't. But my device here is trying to avoid the resistors rather than being not depending on them.
But I see your point, independent can mean does not depend or it can mean is not depending.
Was that your point or did I mess that up ?  |
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| #7 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:25 am Independent of or Independent from? |
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| Haihao wrote: |
BTW, you call your him 'my significant other', which made the expression 'my better half' occure to me. I was told, however, it was seldom used by a wife to refer to her husband possibly for the reason that a man was not qualified enough to be 'a better half'  . |
I never heard of that but I always hear men use 'my better half' when referring to their wives. Hmm, funny. I thought we're the affectionate ones.
Now that I think about it, I never referred to him as my better half either, just endearments that we both made up (usually my broken chinese or malays...hehe)
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Fortunately you now used the term 'my significant other', with which I was happy enough feeling that at least we are not necessarily 'the worse half'. 
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| #9 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2007 13:32 pm Independent of or Independent from? |
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Hi Nina
I'm no expert in this field, but wouldn't it usually the case that a power supply adjusts to the resistance in order to provide a constant rate to a device?
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| #10 (permalink) Tue Mar 06, 2007 14:04 pm Independent of or Independent from? |
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Yes Amy the power supply adjusts to the resistance to provide a constant rate.
However, in my circuit, there are many other devices that have resistors to enable them to do stirring and certain alterations and I was referring to these resistors. They are situated or put so not to intefere to this one device that I was referring to.
Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the comment. Maybe I'll think of another way to describe 'the power supply'  |
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| #11 (permalink) Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:35 am Independent of or Independent from? |
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| NinaZara wrote: |
| Haihao wrote: |
| BTW, you call your him 'my significant other', which made the expression 'my better half' occure to me. I was told, however, it was seldom used by a wife to refer to her husband possibly for the reason that a man was not qualified enough to be 'a better half' . |
I never heard of that but I always hear men use 'my better half' when referring to their wives. |
The Spanish term for 'better half' or 'soul mate' is a happy medium: 'media naranja' (literally 'half orange'). |
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| #12 (permalink) Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:06 am Independent of or Independent from? |
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The question is would that expression give you the pip? Oh, and what colour is an orange when nobody's looking at it?
Well, I tried.
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| #13 (permalink) Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:17 pm You are my (other) half orange |
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| Alan wrote: |
| The question is would that expression give you the pip? |
Well, here's one more appropriate for your latitudes, then:
'Your are the cream to my tea'. Or 'the lemon to my tea' if we want to stick to pip fruit.
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| Oh, and what colour is an orange when nobody's looking at it? |
Good question! |
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| #14 (permalink) Wed Mar 07, 2007 14:55 pm Independent of or Independent from? |
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| Why orange Conchita? Could it be that orange can be sour or sweet or both at the same time?(and so does a man?) |
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| #15 (permalink) Wed Mar 07, 2007 23:14 pm Independent of or Independent from? |
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| NinaZara wrote: |
| Why orange Conchita? Could it be that orange can be sour or sweet or both at the same time?(and so does a man?) |
It has probably more to do with the fact that both halves of the same fruit are usually identical. The English phrase 'my other half' is a good equivalent.
We also say 'encontrar la horma de su zapato': 'to meet one's match' (literally 'to find the mould to one's shoe'). |
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| meaning of "that takes most of the water down it" | Expression: be fed up to here |
