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#2 (permalink) Sat Mar 10, 2007 15:40 pm fair judgement vs. fair trial |
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. Judgements are not necessarily fair-- they can be harsh or lenient-- but the trial that precedes the judgment should be fair. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#4 (permalink) Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:25 am fair judgement vs. fair trial |
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. Absolutely not, nerd! The person in the question is only a suspect. The trial precedes the verdict (except for the Knave of Hearts, of course). . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#5 (permalink) Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:59 am fair judgement vs. fair trial |
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Hi, MM
But from grammatical point of view, is the sentence In a democratic country it is absolutely essential that anyone who is suspected of having committed a crime should be given a fair punishment right?
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Lost_Soul I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#6 (permalink) Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:26 am fair judgement vs. fair trial |
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. There is no point in commenting on the grammaticality of a sentence which is semantically meaningless, Alex. Colorless green ideas sleep furiously. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#7 (permalink) Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:43 pm fair judgement vs. fair trial |
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Furiously sleep ideas green colorless. :lol:
Hi Alex
If you what you actually wanted to know was whether it is generally possible to say 'a punishment', the answer is yes. The word punishment has both countable and uncountable usages. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#8 (permalink) Fri Mar 07, 2008 15:32 pm fair judgement vs. fair trial |
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Ah, great minds think alike:
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In the case of (2.), that is not a good way to learn a language or the "rules" of a language. Language is more than rules. Language has to mean something. It is not hard to write perfectly grammatical sentences which mean absolutely nothing at all. A well-known example (from linguist N. Chomsky) is:
"Colorless green ideas sleep furiously."
This sentence means absolutely nothing although it follows all grammar rules .) |
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#9 (permalink) Fri Mar 07, 2008 16:51 pm fair judgement vs. fair trial |
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. Your ability to remember old posts is astounding, Tom. :shock: :D . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#10 (permalink) Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:56 am fair judgement vs. fair trial |
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| I used lawsuit and it was wrong, but isn't that a perfect synonym for trial? |
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#11 (permalink) Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:06 am fair judgement vs. fair trial |
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You can give someone a fair trial (if you are a judge or jury), but you cannot give someone a lawsuit. The lawsuit is filed by the person in order to have a trial. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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