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#17 (permalink) Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:30 am Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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Dear Torsen, There is nothing new to define "muslim". Followers of Islam believe that everything is defined & every action to be taken or done by huamn beings are instructed by their way of life (Islam).
The problem is the deviation from this way of life. Continuous propagation against them often makes them confused. My opinion is "all should check & revise their believe in their lifetime", otherwise blind follow/support will create more chaos. |
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#18 (permalink) Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:13 am Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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Hi Delta and Jinnat,
I mentioned the definition of the term "Muslim" because I think that no Muslim is a terrorist. As far as I know, real Muslims are people who want to live in peace and harmony with Allah and other people. A terrorist is a person who thinks that hatred and violence is the answer to their problems. So, the question shouldn't be "Is every Muslim a terrorist?" but "How can people of all religions, ideologies and beliefs live on this planet without killing each other"? Mankind has been trying to find an answer to this question for thousands of years and we still haven't found a solution.
As for the media, I think any media have only as much influence as people allow them to have. In other words: If you believe in everything the media are trying to tell you, then you are just naive. You have been given the skill to think, observe and analyze your environment. Scrutinize every situation and try to tell facts apart from fiction. Meet people in person and talk to them rather than believing in what the media is trying to make you believe. This holds true for any media no matter who owns and operates them. If I want to find an answer to the question whether every Muslim is a terrorist, I can't turn to the media. I must go out and speak to Muslims, listen to them learn how they live, try to understand their way of thinking, etc. People who buy everything they media are telling them, are not only naive, they are dangerous because the biggest threat to peace is not terrorism but ignorance. Listen to the song "Shades of Grey" by Billy Joel and you'll know what I mean. I'm so glad that we have Muslims here on our forum because the more we can speak and talk to each other the better we can understand each other. Hatred, war and violence are the result of mis-managed minds, not of religion! Regards, Torsten
PS: believe is a verb and belief is a noun. _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#19 (permalink) Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:14 am Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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I think the best way for people to know muslim is by defining Islam first.I've been taught all my life Islam means "safe" literally and muslim means "the ones who surrender".(I believe Torsten, your range of vocabs and experience are far greater than mine to guess the wider meanings of these expressions)
But basically muslims are the ones who:
1. admit the syahadah: there is no God but God
2. perform the 5 times prayer every day
3. pay Zakat (some sort of a cumpulsory donation for the poor)
4. fast during the Ramadhan (compulsory to those who have the strength)
5. perform Hajj (the pilgrimage, compulsory once in a life time to those who have the money and the strength)
This is the 5 pillars of Islam and I think it is the "standard" way (not mine) the muslims define other muslims.
Why I said this is because many (not all) westerners define muslims as Arabs(apparently this does not include you Torsten...BIG hug from me ). Men would have to wear beard or an Arab look/style and women would have to wear the veil to be muslim. (These are just cultural and if we look carefully in the Quran, the real message is to dress modestly)
And what angers me is the concept of moderate muslims. To me this claim is an insult to the religion itself, as if the religion or the practice of the religion has to be toned down a bit to make it tolerable.
If people really take the time to look carefully, all Islam teaches is the way of life. Some people behave or follow this teaching without even realising it. Then who are we to say who's muslim and who's not?
And I really agree with Jinnat when he said we should check and revise our beliefs but I just want to add, at all times. If all remember our fardhu ain and fardhu kifayah's classes, we were asked to perform muhasabah (the checking and revising) of our deeds and thoughts everyday.
To all muslims friends, if we are really serious in our faith, we should stop acting in a patronising way towards people who we considered non-muslims on trivial matters and we should think deeply why we humble ourselves to the lowest possition possible by putting our forehead to the ground for God everytime we pray. |
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#20 (permalink) Mon Mar 19, 2007 13:00 pm Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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| Torsten wrote: |
Hi Delta and Jinnat,
I'm so glad that we have Muslims here on our forum because the more we can speak and talk to each other the better we can understand each other. |
Thanks alot for these truly amazing words am so impressed by the way you talk and you are 100% right More over, i wish that everyone of us will stop believing the media and start to communicate more with muslims themselves because that will give them a clear idea about who we really are. Thanks again am so gald too that we can communicate into this forum together |
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*Delta* You can meet me at english-test.net
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#21 (permalink) Mon Mar 19, 2007 13:04 pm Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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| NinaZara wrote: |
I think the best way for people to know muslim is by defining Islam first.I've been taught all my life Islam means "safe" literally and muslim means "the ones who surrender".(I believe Torsten, your range of vocabs and experience are far greater than mine to guess the wider meanings of these expressions)
But basically muslims are the ones who:
1. admit the syahadah: there is no God but God
2. perform the 5 times prayer every day
3. pay Zakat (some sort of a cumpulsory donation for the poor)
4. fast during the Ramadhan (compulsory to those who have the strength)
5. perform Hajj (the pilgrimage, compulsory once in a life time to those who have the money and the strength)
This is the 5 pillars of Islam and I think it is the "standard" way (not mine) the muslims define other muslims. |
seems to me that you have a clear idea about this religion and that is so great it's good to see other people has studied our religion correctly
take care bye bye |
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*Delta* You can meet me at english-test.net
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#22 (permalink) Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:08 am Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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Hi all,
Be sure that we share only one world!
edwin _________________ One life, Live it ! |
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#23 (permalink) Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:12 am Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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Hey,why my post attached with AD?
edwin _________________ One life, Live it ! |
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#25 (permalink) Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:49 pm Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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Hi Torsten
I have a feeling that Edwin means 'ad' (as in 'advertisement'). I noticed ads appearing in my posts too when I first began posting here -- and I also found that disconcerting.
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#26 (permalink) Wed Mar 21, 2007 13:34 pm Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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Hi Amy,
Now I know what you mean. Yes, the top posts of our threads contain Google ads. If you don't want them, you can install Firefox and activate the AdBlocker. Then you won't see any Google ads on our site.
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#27 (permalink) Wed Mar 21, 2007 17:57 pm Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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no, of course not. the vast majority aren't.
that'd be like assuming that every person is a sociopath. To be willing to blow yourself up, or to plan to kill multiple civilians on purpose (with intent), there probably has to be a screw loose in your head. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#28 (permalink) Fri Mar 23, 2007 21:42 pm Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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| Hercules wrote: |
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Hi Hercules!
I must admit that I firstly considered this forum (controversial topics) a cemetary, too. But, please have a certain look around and see what?s happening. The cemetary like you called this forum starts getting living and I feel pleasant with it as it offers us a chance to talk about difference between our or the members points of view and might help us to understand each other. I think this is quite necessary. Please let me gie an example
Some days ago in Germany a judge spoke a sentence where she allowed a Muslim to castigate his wife by beating her!! The judge was erring in interpreting the Koran that allows such stupidness as she thinks.
What do you think of this? I can?t believe that the judge was right!
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#29 (permalink) Sat Apr 14, 2007 20:53 pm christian terrorists |
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I'm a moslem and I am not a terrorist!!! There're lots of christian terrorists which murdered moslems, like Armenian terrorist organizations,ASALA. An American Samuel A.Weems's book "Secrets of a "christian" terrorist state Armenia" could tell you much of that christian state's terrors towards moslems, especially towards turks.So, what were you all talking about moslems?  _________________ Either nothing is truth, or the truth is unknown to us... |
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#30 (permalink) Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:08 am Is every muslim a terrorist? |
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I don't agree the question that "is every muslim terorist?".
I think that There is no have correlation between muslim and terrorist. Frankly, I know that most terroists are generally muslim. but, this is maybe "false information"
Continuously the US attack the Arab countries. because, Arab countries are merely connenction with muslim. but I think an extreme element only connect with an extreme muslim. and an extreme element are high possible to have correlation of terror _________________ VERITAS LUXMEA !! |
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