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What is the difference between religion and ideology? #16 (permalink) Tue Mar 27, 2007 14:43 pm   What is the difference between religion and ideology?		  
First and foremost,

I am a believer of Islam, Enes. I pray 5 times a day, fast, though my father still pay zakat fitrah for me and am hoping to do the pilgrimage one day, hopefully next year(Amen!)
Hedonist wrote:
Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation exclusively but I have been sent to all mankind. (Bukhari Vol. 1, No. 429)

All other prophets were sent only for their own nations. Jesus was sent to Israelites only, as he himself also acknowledged this; "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew 15:24).

So don't think that the Quran is compromised for Arabs.

Again, I am aware of this. And as I said to Stew, maybe this is not the word at all.

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This should be the same for you. As a Christian, you should believe that the Holy Bible is inerrant.

I believe Christian is a true religion but my faith is Islam.

Hedonist wrote:
Regarding your preference about the sources of Islam, you are correct to prefer the Quran over the Hadith, but you cannot dismiss the Hadith at all. Hadith is the second of four sources of Islamic jurisprudence. The very first guide for a muslim is the Quran, then the hadith, then the Qiyas (Analogy), and then the Ijma (consensus).

I'm sorry Enes, I wanted to say Ijma'. I got confused with the word Ijtihad.Thank you for correcting me Very Happy

Hedonist wrote:
There are some non-sectarian people who don't chose any madhab (religious school), and only accept the Quran as their source. But this is utterly wrong.

Considering the Sunnis and Shiahs are killing each other right now, I don't blame them.This is also one of the things that is still "blowing my mind". Didn't we start as one before?(During Mohammad's time, I mean)

Hedonist wrote:
For example, the Quran orders muslims to pray 5 times a day, but it does not tell anything about how to perform them. The hadith and sunnah are where we learn how to perform the prayers...Without the hadith, the Quran is not sufficient.

Don't you ever think, had the early scholars had been more women than man, will there not be a slight chance that a woman imam leading Friday prayer a common thing?

Hedonist wrote:
By the way, can you tell me more about your background. Is one of your parents muslim?

I'm a Malaysian, currently living in Japan.Both my parents are muslims. Actually your thoughts resemble my father's a lot. A lot.And my mom, she's a lot stricter.But more on the ibadah, the prayer, Quran reciting, fast etc.

And you can see my pictures on the "pictures of ESL forumers" thread. Smile

Hedonist wrote:
Why are you anyway interested in Islam and also in an interfaith marriage? From which religion is your future spouse going to be? Smile

What's not to be interested in? Wink and he's a firm believer of "religions divide people".

Hedonist wrote:
Lastly, you don't really need a guide to learn more about Islam. There are many sources, even online. It should not be too difficult. But of course, it would be a lot easier with a tutor or a guide. Though, if you have any questions, you are more than welcome to ask me.

With blessings and love,
Enes

Thank you!

Sisters in Islam,(really, no pun intended, if I were a man, I would say "brothers".Btw, do you SIS?)

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What is the difference between religion and ideology? #17 (permalink) Tue Mar 27, 2007 15:07 pm   What is the difference between religion and ideology?		  
Nina

Thks for your balanced and sincere views I will digest them. And once I have time after work commitments will comment.
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think all though we are coming from different angles we are on a similiar page.
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What is the difference between religion and ideology? #18 (permalink) Tue Mar 27, 2007 19:28 pm   What is the difference between religion and ideology?		  
Hi,

Has anyone of you read what Nietzsche wrote about God?

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What is the difference between religion and ideology? #19 (permalink) Tue Mar 27, 2007 20:23 pm   What is the difference between religion and ideology?		  
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Hi,

Has anyone of you read what Nietzsche wrote about God?

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Do you mean this :

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?

is it not said by "madman" in the a piece of literature ?

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What is the difference between religion and ideology? #20 (permalink) Thu Mar 29, 2007 18:52 pm   What is the difference between religion and ideology?		  
Nina

Jesus told the disciples to spread the gospel (His gospel) in the Great Commission:
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Matthew 28:16-20
The Great Commission
16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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As such, Christianity was meant to be preached to all. Jesus' formal ministry was a relatively short one (only two or three years, maybe).

Paul took it to Asia Minor and Rome, for instance, and others went elsewhere.
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What is the difference between religion and ideology? #21 (permalink) Fri Mar 30, 2007 14:11 pm   What is the difference between religion and ideology?		  
Tom,

All religion, I truly believe are meant to be preached to all mankind. It trancends gender, race, nationality etc.
This is however, my personal view. Other people may have different views.But thank you for pointing it for us all.The important thing is you think Christianity is inerrant.

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What is the difference between religion and ideology? #22 (permalink) Fri Mar 30, 2007 18:47 pm   What is the difference between religion and ideology?		  
I agree and I sent you a msg. (check thy mail)
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