Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...

Cristina · Mon Mar 26, 2007 17:22 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Which do you think are the obligations of each man and woman in a marriage??
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Cris.
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Englishuser · Mon Mar 26, 2007 20:57 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi Cristina,

Do you mean married men's obligations as opposed to married women's obligations or married people's obligations in general?

Englishuser

Jan · Mon Mar 26, 2007 21:38 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi,
I don't see any obligations at all, if you have somebody just take care of relation
by making yourself happy. If making yourself happy doesn't mean to give him so much as it is possible for you then maybe ... You prefer somebody else.
No rules, no rules at all

Jan

Dark magician · Mon Mar 26, 2007 21:54 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi, folks

In the past ,in my country most women were stay in her home and she care in her children and home, and man must work out and he get money for his wife and his children. Cool

But now the woman and man must work out, if they want good life. Wink

you know the life become very hard these days Mad

.

sometime some woman wish found rich men to get married him, that mean they mustn't work out . Twisted Evil

let's know what do you prefer?

Mba
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Englishuser · Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:40 am *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi,

I definitely think every one should work. I can't see why men and women should be any different in this respect. Sometimes it is more practical for a parent to stay at home, for instance when their children are very young. But I don't think the woman should automatically be the one who stays home and looks after the children and cleans the house: The joy or the burden to do this could well be shared.

Englishuser

NinaZara · Tue Mar 27, 2007 16:09 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hello,

I, for one think taking care of the young ones is WORK. In fact, it's hard work.

Englishuser · Tue Mar 27, 2007 17:04 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi Nina,

Thank you for your question. Work, to me, could be either housework or work you get paid for, however, in my last post I was referring to working as a salaried employee.

Of course, someone might enjoy a domestic life with no salaried work at sight. For most people this is impossible because very few of us have inherited enough money for us to be able to pay our bills without doing anything apart from chores at home.

I dislike the idea of women staying at home while the men are deemed to be the breadwinners. Where does this idea come from? I mean, why couldn't the man be the one staying home?

Either way, the party who stays home continues to be financially dependent on their spouse. Since money plays an important part in our everyday lives this can give rise to many problems. What happens if the person in control decides not to give you any money? What if your relationship turns out to be a huge mistake?

Englishuser

NinaZara · Tue Mar 27, 2007 17:31 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hello,

Englishuser · Tue Mar 27, 2007 17:53 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi Nina,

You say that men can stay home but that many men just don't want to. Where does this come from? Our culture. Most things we'd consider 'masculine' or 'feminine' are not biologically or genetically but socially and culturally determined.

Stereotypes are reinforced by parents, teachers and society which means things tend to stay the way they are. Changes also occur, fortunately. In Scandinavia, for instance, most of the women are employed outside of home nowadays.

I don't think anyone should be dependent on somebody else if they are capable of looking after themselves. In my opinion, being born a boy or a girl should not determine whether or not you're going to earn money of your own when you grow up.

I intensely dislike "gender roles" as a concept. Why should you need to act out a certain role just because you are a woman or a man? I refuse to accept any norms that would limit me only because of my gender, and I strongly encourage cross-gender behaviour.

Englishuser

NinaZara · Tue Mar 27, 2007 19:07 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi Englishuser,

I can't help but think you are being idealistic here.But I have one more question if you don't mind.

Often, women enjoy doing "feminine" things.If she's a businesswoman, she owns a salon or a kindergarten.Do you label this as one of the "gender roles" too?

Nina

p.s. I did fine with learning mechanical stuffs.But when my hands are full with grease, I still hate it.Yuck.
Do you also think this, culturally determined?
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Englishuser · Tue Mar 27, 2007 19:33 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi Nina,

Perhaps I am a bit idealistic, but I think you should strive to undo as many wrongs as you can.

As for your question, I don't really know if I agree with the statement you made. Are women more likely than men to own nursery schools and beauty salons? Perhaps. Women also do lots of other things, though. There are women working as engineers or engine drivers. There are men working as nurses or midwives. If someone chooses to work as a beautician because she is a woman I would say it's quite a negative thing since I believe your gender is irrelevant in most aspects of life. I think the fact that people choose careers seen as appropriate for their gender is a social matter.

Englishuser

P.S. Does anyone like dirty hands?

NinaZara · Tue Mar 27, 2007 20:41 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Englishuser,

I did not make any statement at all. I merely wanted to know what you think of women doing feminine things.From your previous post I've got an impression that you sort of penalise people who don't cross-gender.So I wanted to check that before commenting further on it.

Nina

p.s. at least the boys in my lab had fun with greased hands but I didn't.My point, totally denying gender is unrealistic,at least to me.
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Jan · Tue Mar 27, 2007 21:07 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Englishuser · Tue Mar 27, 2007 23:46 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi Nina,

Englishuser · Tue Mar 27, 2007 23:48 pm *Obligations of a woman and a man in marriage...*

Hi Jan,

You wrote:

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